From a previous post of Claude’s but still unanswered:
“Yes a cheap little shut-off valve can initially cost very little, but potentially cause thousands of dollars in damages. (how so?)”
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Regards
Claude
How does lack of shut offs that are not a code requirement impact the homeowner? Or the sale of a property?
I asked you specifically whether or not shut offs which are not a SOP requirement, nor building code requirement would be a requirement of the TIPR process?
Brian, I fail to understand how a cheap little valve can cause thousands of dollars in damages. A leak is a leak whether there is a shut off valve or not.
Me too!! Thus my “How So?” in blue.
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Brian, I fail to understand how a cheap little valve can cause thousands of dollars in damages. A leak is a leak whether there is a shut off valve or not.
Me too!! Thus my “How So?” in blue.
A cheap little valve leaking could cause a lot of damage to floor, wall and/or ceiling below, especially if going unnoticed for a prolonged length of time…no?
Have to answer a question with a question!!!
An expensive high quality little valve leaking could cause a lot of damage to floor, wall and/or ceiling below, especially if going unnoticed for a prolonged length of time…no?
Maybe the fewer valves, the better since each valve has 3 more potential leakage points than a solid unbroken pipe!
Are you suggesting that a shut off valve for all fixtures regardless if they are not mandated by the OBC are useless?
Thats because you are not very bright.
The concern was that there should be shut off valves on supply lines to each fixture. Therefore having a valve is not going to stop a leak, nor is it going to prevent damage. To suggest it is a valid issue in a report is somewhat questionable given that it is not a code requirement or SOP requirement.
I always call out lack of shutoff valves.
All the plumbing work I have done has taught me their importance.
Anyone not seeing the need ,has not done much plumbing. Period.
Robert, Its not a case of seeing the need its a case it is not a code requirement nor a requirement of the SOP fwiw.
Exactlly!
Maybe that is why they are not required (code) for fixtures…no?
Regardless, I still recommend them for hose bibb’s even if frost free types simply because homeowners neglects to disconnect garden hose in fall.
Raymond Wand
Stop with the BS you moron.
You do not need any stinking code to call out need, health , safety , or financial problems.
I call it using your noodle and not just memorizing code.
Put it this way, if a light is non operational but not required does it matter?
Good example Robert,
Hi Claude,
I was one of your students at Humber, do you remember me?
No one said they were useless; they are a convenience but not required by codes nor required to be reported by the SOP. IMO, it is a small thing overall.
I’d much rather see interconnected, dual sensor smoke detectors with battery backup in all bedrooms, electrical panel rooms, laundry rooms, mechanical rooms or any other rooms with a closeable door that has an electric or combustion appliance (water heater, for example)…that would be a better use of extra funds!!!
From the SOP:
“N. And report the absence of smoke detectors.”
We don’t have to recommend a good system of detectors but I do!
Hello Frank - glad to see you join in the discussions here!
I am still at it and working on new inspection courses.
Best Regards, Claude
Thanks Claude!
Please e-mail me with any new courses infraredcertified@yahoo.ca
BTW How is my friend Harry Janssen? He was on City TV and healthy as can be after his heart transplant. I truly hope he is well.