Stucco type sheets adhered to ceiling drywall

Here’s a new one on me. I had a client have a problem with their ceiling (most of one bedroom caved in). Everything was fine at the time of inspection a few months back. Home was built in 1942. Anyway, when I met with the client, the ceiling had drywall attached with fasteners and had the 1/2 inch Stucco (concrete) boards glued to the drywall (not fastened to the joists with fasteners (see photos). This is something I’ve never seen before. My client is about 6’6” and probably weighs 380-400 Lbs. My guess is that he was walking on the floor above and flexed the joists enough to cause a few fasteners to pull through the drywall, then it just cascaded from there.

Has anyone seen anything like this? I’ve seen drywall attached over stucco, but never the other way around.

The first photo is from the inspection and the others are from after it caved in.

Thanks!





This is rock lath. Here are a couple of articles on it.

Rock Lath - Gypsum Board Lath Perforated or solid gypsum or plaster boards used as a base for wall or ceiling plaster (inspectapedia.com)

drywall - Is this plaster over gypsum wallboard? - Home Improvement Stack Exchange

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Yes the plaster is over the drywall (gypsum). Only the drywall was attached with fasteners. The Rock Lath was adhered to it with glue. I’m sure that if the Rock Lath was attached to the joists with fasteners, this wouldn’t have happened.

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Outside of the 90-degree wire mesh corners, the plaster does not have any mechanical fasteners to the rock lath. There is no glue. It adheres just like mudding drywall joints or adding texture. It’s just thicker.

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as Jeff said look up rock lath and plaster, which You have in Your pictures, the rock lath is nailed, everything else is troweled on…the rock lath is what You are calling gypsum…

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The fasteners only went through the drywall, not all the way through both layers. The heavy mortar-like sheathing did not have fasteners through it, only the drywall.

THERE ARE NO FASTENERS FOR THE PLASTER TO THE ROCK LATH.

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We can explain it to You Patrick but oviously cant understand it for You, please just google rock lath and plaster maybe that will help…

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It’s nothing more than a parge coat.

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Imagine hanging sheetrock, then coming back, adding a lathe (expanded metal), and troweling on some plaster.

Seems to me that the added plaster was too heavy and the bedroom antics shook it all down! :wink:

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there is typically no metal lath used over rock lath prior to the brown coat, wire mesh is used in corners (inside ) prior to brown coat

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There is no metal lathe, it appears to be sheathing (like Wonder Board) except without any metal or fibers in the material.

Did you go to and read the information on the links provided?

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of course not…

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The fasteners weren’t supposed go through both layers.

The fasteners pulled out of the joints. What type of nails were used, smooth shank or ring shank?

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They look like they could be ring shank but it is hard to verify in the picture. But it does look like they attached ~1/2” board.

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The home we are currently remodeling has this installation.

Transition from wood lath to what would eventually be just drywall.

As the others have stated the plaster is just troweled on without any additional fasteners.

The only wire mesh is in the corners.

Makes for a pain when installing new doors as the walls are much thicker so you have to extend the jambs.

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