The problem with throwing all these bureaucrats out is that you can't ever make them productive

After their severance pay is gone, they won’t last a week. You can’t take government employees and expect them to compete in the productive economy. They are just food eaters.

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Friend of a friend is in the government and could take this buyout but it’s kind of a joke as part of the deal is you give up your pension/retirement plan. So, basically, the only ones interested would be newly hired people.

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I know one in the guberment, besides retirement as Matt pointed out he is weighing health insurance into the consideration.

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Hmmmm

Of course, labor unions inside our union…

A federal judge paused Trump’s buyout offer hours before the deadline in order to allow time for labor unions to challenge the plan’s legality

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Good!

And it’s good, because most everything they’re trying to do is illegal.

Let’s hope the courts hold and don’t give up their power like the spineless Republican Party has.

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The legal way to get rid of them is to fire them all on the grounds that we don’t have any more money. We’re in debt and broke.

That’s it folks, out of money. Go get a job or start a business or whatever. You can’t keep forcing us to borrow.

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Who are them all? Congress, Congressional staff? Military? Should we shutter the Pentagon? EPA? FDA? CDC?

Yes, we’re in debt and we’re broke, and Republicans now control all the levers of power, well at least they did for a very short period of time.

If we keep and abide by our constitution, Congress is responsible for spending and saving money. Not Musk and his DOGE boys.

This chart tells us that what Musk & DOGE is doing doesn’t amount to a hill of beans. If he wants to save America, balance the budget, and bring down the debt, he needs to make deep cuts where it counts and where it will hurt, but he won’t.

Brought to you by the same people who hid Biden’s mental deficiencies, manipulated/hid the laptop story, promoted the Russian Collusion Hoax and a whole laundry list of other manipulations, lies and partisanship.

Years later they will slowly admit they were wrong or proven wrong.

Here were go again. SMH

I beg to differ and so does history. 1995 statement Clinton made a year after he signed the Federal Workforce Restructuring Act.
Under Clinton, the government offered mass buyouts. But there’s a key difference with what’s happening under Trump: A bipartisan Congress overwhelmingly approved Clinton’s program following months of review.

Things are done using common sense and both parties.

I wouldn’t pay Congress at all. There are plenty of people who will do the job for free and the average legislator is a multi-millionaire: Proof they aren’t there for the paycheck already.

Cut 25% from everything else you mentioned except the military. I’d cut the military by half. Put them all back on defense. Also, if you trespass, you lose your pay and military benefits. We can’t afford to borrow another $9 trillion for you to waste on “liberating” or “nation building” or whatever you call blowing up the wrong two countries after 911. Especially since 90% of the casualties were civilian. That’s just fiscally irresponsible and immoral.

Remember, every government employee we fire just doesn’t save us their paycheck. It saves on everything they were spending our money on: rubber stamps, bombs, etc.

Yeah, well progressivism poisoned the Democrat party driving them so far left that nothing can be done with Congress until they get back to center.

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The government isn’t ineffective because of the people they hire. That’s missing the point entirely. Government is ineffective because it has no profit motive or market motive. It relies on force and requires compliance. There are as many complacent workers in corporate desks, cubicles and offices as there are in government. That’s why corporatism (which craves compliance and regulation) and big government love each other so much.

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Best post yet.

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I agree with your sentiment 100%, Nick.

But just looking at the military as an example. We spend 10 times more on defense than the next 10 countries combined.
One program, the F-35 debacle, over a decade behind schedule and so far, over $183 billion over original cost estimates, yet they keep moving forward with it.

Why? Because Lockheed Martin and other contractors are lining the pockets of congress through lobbyists to keep it going.

So, IMO the biggest problem is the money that’s infected our politicians, and no matter how much the DOGE boys’ gut, Congress holds the purse strings and will replenish.

I disagree to an extent. Only congress has control of the purse strings, so whether it’s the scientist working at the FDA to keep our food safe, the doctor working at the CDC monitoring the next potential pandemic, the guy in the factory building bombs, or the Airman working on C-17s to keep them flying safely, none of them control over what money gets spent on what and when.

My point being, if congress authorizes the money to be spent, regardless of who you hire or fire, that money will get spent.

and to think, Democrats were in charge for 12 of the last 16 years and nothing was done.

Just getting started. How can you be so confident he won’t? it’s not going to hurt him.

You need to supply a reference for your little chart . . . you didn’t draw that yourself; did you?

Trump’s ego and poll numbers are more important to him than you, me, or anyone or anything else on the planet.

So it would hurt him! Ego, hubris and narcissism

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