Uh, why reverse this? Imagine that you are stuck on a deserted island with a Chinese guy. He is super productive. He is chopping wood to build a fire to cook fish that he caught and he slices up some coconuts that he picked, puts them on a plate along with the fish and delivers it to you each day.
You then eat it each day.
You want to reverse that?
Yes.
If he dies I die.
If I am unable to cook or fish, he owns me.
Soon I am fat and he is eating my children as he feeds me fish.
But I love fish and keep eating until my family is decimated.
What A great reply, Nick. You’re The Best!
Moving forward, through dialog, you both help each other survive. You are good at building shelters, the chinses man helps you eat.
The boogieman everyone is so deeply fearful of in America, people’s democratic dictatorship. The CCP. McCarthyism. Korean War.
China has something we don’t have; peasants. Even that is going away though.
When we first started the factory in Fuyong, it took about 90 minutes to get from Hong Kong to Fuyong via car or Ferry. While there was a “super highway” at the time, it was nothing more than 4 lane, pot hole mess of a road.
When I last went to the area, there was a 6 lane(8-10 in spots) super slab with no enforced speed limit. You could cover the distance in 40 minutes easily. We never drove ourselves in China, I would never recommend that.
Along that same corridor it went from farms and fields to sky scrapers near the cities and apt buildings (30-50 floor deals).
Before we closed that facility because China was going to bulldoze all the factories(it was less than 8YO when demolished), we were starting to have trouble getting employees. The employees were 90% female, they were all about 4’10" and looks very much the same. Same hair cut, same body build, same face, same clothes. Same. Drones. They lived 20-36 hour bus rides away and otherwise lived on the premises(we paid for their housing). They sat at long tables and worked. We paid about 48 cents an hour in 2003 about 10 cents over minimum wage. By 2011 when we closed it? They were making like $2/hour. There was a minimum wage, but zero people paid it as zero workers would work for it.
The first few times we were there, it was common to get pointed at. I don’t mean from 100 yards away, I mean from 30 feet away. They had never seen gweilos.
The last time I was there they all had colored clothing, cell phones and frankly productivity was way, way down. They were getting westernized.
Interesting how your aversion to Trump is convincing you that the relationship worthy of fostering is with a brutal communist country. One that is an actual dictatorship, that supports the likes of Russia, North Korea and Iran.
Is this the manifestation of a country’s leftist ideology? If so, then the EU is also vulnerable to the madness and Russia has never been the adversary we should fear, it has always been our own progressive leaders.
Interesting how America’s aversion to Trump is convincing most Americans, that the relationship worthy of fostering is with brutal communist country’s, Brian. One that is an actual democracy moving towards dictatorship & supports the likes of Russia, North Korea and not yet Iran. Give it time.
Never thought it would happen until Trump got involved.
We have identified the problem. It is more destructive than COVID and Polio combined. It may bring down nations and destroy freedom, full stop. It spares no one who lives within the herd. It is known as TDS.
Here is one known treatment, but there are no guarantees.
It’s really going to go away when they start consuming more of what they make after we turn our nose up at them. They have live-in consumers for their products. We don’t have live-in factories.
Make a long list of all the countries that China, North Korea, and Iran have attacked, invaded, and occupied in your lifetime.
Here, I’ll make it:
Did North Korea fly all the way to the other side of the world, cross sovereign borders, attack essentially low-tech countries that were minding their own business (Iraq and Afghanistan had no hand in 911), slaughter tens of thousands of Iraqi and Afghani women and children, call the patriots who fought back “insurgents,” assassinate their leaders, take children back to torture camps for the only crime of shooting trespassers, keep POWs in perma-captivity in violation of the Geneva Treaty, then refuse to leave for 20 years? Don’t forget who the bad guys are and why God rarely lets them win. I would love if our military acted like North Korea’s and stayed in its own damn yard, on defense, where it is supposed to be. But there is no money in that, is there?
When I left my prior company, the Chinese office that monitored quality control was getting to be too far away from the manufacturing. It closed at some point after I left.
I’m sure there are still factories within driving distance of Shen Zhen. The difference is they are new, clean, decently automated places. All the dirty, high manual labor items have moved into the interior.
Manufacturing in China changed massively in the 20 or so years I was working with it. Take what happened in the USA from 1890 to 1980 and crush it into 2 decades. What comes next will probably look a lot like what we have here. Mostly automated facilities with machine operators.
A little land mass known as America has likely kept them in check.
At this point I think you are just debating. The CCP would never support our values and have been aggressively attempting to degrade us for 30 years. I prefer to win, not lose to them. I have a survivor’s mentality.
They would likely accept you into their country to live among them as they do. Then you could continue to assist spreading their glory. Meanwhile, our right to vote has addressed our aggression, this will never happen there.
1950? How old are you?
Anyway, I would love if our military had a list that old and short. Honor is important to me.
I agree. I am actively attempting to restrain our military industrial complex. But I do not advocate for China based on one data point.
China is going to look at products spilling off the ends of all these assembly lines, look at the millions of workers on those assembly lines, and say: Hey folks, wanna buy this stuff and improve your standard of living? The U.S. doesn’t want it.
Again, China can find local customers faster and easier than we can build thousands of factories and convince lazy Americans to work in them all day and night.
Well, duh, what kind of Communist country would they be if they couldn’t??
They are not buying. They don’t have any money.
One thing China can do that we cannot is literally kill or starve their people. They will not be able to take care of their old soon. They have a massive aging population they cannot care for. They will have to brutalize their population to survive this or invade, just as Russia had to do.
It will be a test for all of us. Unfortunately, the squishy anti-Trumper’s are draining our leverage by taking China’s side.
There’s a limit to the amount of rubber dogshit that locals will buy.
You do understand they have this stuff already? They get it for pennies on the dollar. They aren’t all the sudden going to pay US prices for the same thing.
The way to win this is to first get God on your side.
Trump knows that spending trillions building bases to attack women and children (90% of the casualties in any attack by our military are civilian) in countries that never did us any harm (not a single 911 hijacker, trainer, mastermind, or financier was Afghan or Iraqi, not one) is dishonorable.
Without honor, God won’t let us win any war, even trade wars.
Instead, do what China does: Spend those trillions on building factories, infrastructure, and gobbling up commodities… all while we’re over here actually celebrating trespassing, and playing that stupid Lee Greenwood song on stereos made in China.
Here we agree. And we need our capital investors to do this. So, close our markets to our competition, which will open it up to local investment. Rebuild this infrastructure you were bashing moments ago.
Then we can default on whatever loans we wish.
But we aren’t paying for any of it. They are figuring that out. They are taking I.O.U.s from a country that has ZERO POSSIBILITY of making good on them. We’re $36 trillion in debt. Sure, we can print and pay them back in full nominally, but by the time we do that, what purchasing power will anything denominated in U.S. dollars have?
There are two ways to default: The honorable way, just tell them we can’t pay. Or the dishonorable way, pay them back with worthless, recently-printed paper. Can you guess the way the U.S. will choose? I can.
Why do you think no one buys our treasuries any longer. We can’t sell this debt to anyone but the Federal Reserve. What idiot is going to loan the U.S. money for 30 years at 4%?
We woke the world up to our scam starting with Biden’s weaponization of the world’s reserve currency when he stole $500 billion from Russia and ending with Trump’s inability to understand that the tariffs are taxes on us for buying great products that we can’t make ourselves.
I love Elon Musk, but he can’t change basic math. The only thing we produce and export is worthless paper and war criminals.
