Unsecured ground bus bar

[rmeier2 (Robert Meier)]

@ryoung7

Ground buss bar serves as a central point for connecting all ground wires in the system.
Service panel and associated circuits at the the buss bar, are grounded/bonded by connecting a grounding wire, GEC to a grounding rod (or rods) driven into the earth outside the home or to the potable domestic water supply line, when conductive..

In a typical house system where there is a green screw as the main bonding jumper the GEC is not connected to the EGC bus it gets connected to the neutral. If there is only a single neutral bus then the EGC’s can terminate there as well. Grounding electrodes are not needed or provided to clear ground faults.

[ryoung7 (ROBERT YOUNG, CMI)]

@rmeier2

GEC is not connected to the EGC bus

Did I refer to the GEC connect to a EGC buss? Sorry if I did. I don’t remember at the monent.

I think understand about how bonding is archived with low voltage 120/240V single phase, lol, electric service panel enclosures.

[jspencer (Jeff Spencer)]

Even when proven wrong, some refuse to admit that they could possibly be wrong.

[ryoung7 (ROBERT YOUNG, CMI)]

@rkenney

Is the neutral bus bonded to the panel?

Good question. Thank you. You can’t tell.

Here is what I see so far. The ground/ing buss is possibly bonded with a very questionable jumper.
The jumper should be 6awg coper if I am not mistaken. Does not look like a GE manufactured jumper.
Floating Ground buss.

Sorry for the edits all.

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[jmilby (Jim Milby)]

The egc between the buses would only need to be sized for the largest circuit it was serving.

[tsayre3 (timothy sayre)]

@ryoung7

Good question. Thank you. You can’t tell.

i can’t because i didn’t look closely, but it has been discussed on up the thread and determined that it is bonded, connected with a jumper, whatever, and electrically will work. questionable installation points to possible other questionable work also. i believe it was yourself that posited that.

[ryoung7 (ROBERT YOUNG, CMI)]

@tsayre3

it has been discussed on up the thread and determined that it is bonded

One assessment would be, assumed the panel was bonded. That panel has issues period. Bonding is not assumed, but tested.

[tsayre3 (timothy sayre)]

you’re absolutely right about that, and since you mentioned it i looked closer. you’re probably old enough to recall those old prego commercials, and it’s just like they said: “it’s in there”. notice the copper wire going from that bar to the other one, the one that is connected to the box. bonded, not assumed, but pictured. unless i am mistaken in my terminology, it happens so it’s possible. have a great day.

[ryoung7 (ROBERT YOUNG, CMI)]

@tsayre3

have a great day.

Pleasure reading your take on the post. Thank you and everyone for there thoughts.
And to you as well, Tim. Kind regards & have a great day.

[jmajure (Jake Majure)]

Very interesting
Thank you