Your imagination is running wild.
Show me where I said I would not report anything.
Right after where I said defect.
That’s right. I didn’t.:roll:
You are the one that started calling everyone out in your usual style for not yelling the equivalent of ***
***“danger, danger 2-wire circuits on the premises”
and now you whine when the facts of life are explained to you.
As usual you twist the facts any way you like Mike.
I never said “Danger Danger” Will Robinson.
All I did was object to an Inspector failing to report this as out of date wiring which would be well served to get Up dated.
I promise you a house with no ground at outlets will sell for less.
Do your clients a favor and report it.
End of Story
Do as you like, and I will continue doing the right thing.
Guess i should throw this canned narrative out.
Bonding—The inspector was unable to locate a bonding device within the main electric panel. This is a safety device and this defective condition should be corrected by a qualified electrical contractor
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How is this related to this thread?
I agree that two prong (ungrounded) receptacles are fine and I use a similar conversation that most clock radios and lamps only have two prongs so there isn’t any advantage of the ground.
HOWEVER, I run into many many many situations where people changed out the two prong receptacles with 3 prong receptacles and now these are ungronded 3-prongers. And if they are protected by a GFCI then I just mention that the stickers should be installed on the covers to identify them correctly.
But what happens when they are not grounded and not GFCI protected??
You report them as a potential hazard as it is misleading to consumers of an grounded connection and should be corrected. Explain that it is typical of unlicensed work. Choices, replace with 2 prong plugs o GFCI protect it and install the proper labels.
Just another red herring when one is losing an argument and can’t or won’t admit it.
My narrative:
Open or missing grounds noted at 3 prong receptacles. While common years ago and still acceptable today, the lack of a grounding conductor will limit the use of certain appliances such as refrigerators, washing machines, computers, etc., that require a ground. Dedicated circuits may have to be run to properly and safely use such appliances.
Recommend installing Ground Fault Circuit Interrupters in place of the 3 prong ungrounded receptacles or having two-prong outlets installed. Even if an outlet box isn’t grounded, installing a GFCI in it will still protect you (and your tools and appliances) from ground faults. But an ungrounded GFCI can’t safeguard sensitive electronics, such as a computer or phone, from the interference caused by stray currents. The National Electrical Code requires you to stick a label on the receptacle that reads, “No equipment ground.” These labels come in the box with a new GFCI. If you need help, call a licensed electrician for help and other possible options.
Paul what is your take on the entire issue of how ungrounded receptacles should be reported/
I will bow to your final word on this.
Bonding and grounding are interrelated.
Mildly, but completely irrelevant with regard to this thread. . .
This damn moderation stuff is destroying the forum.
Bet it takes 2 days for Paul to reply.
Not good.Moderation should have been after the fact and not pre screen.
Paul is a member at not subject to moderation.:roll:
Roll with it LARSON.:roll:
90 %
I am 100% you are a loon at times.
Prove me wrong.:roll:
Thats easy
I dis agree with you 100 % of the time.
Bob E. is the most intelligent human being on the face of the earth.