2008 Condo Sub-panel - no bare EGC's

I inspected a 4th floor 2008 condo unit (22 floor condo building) today and there are no bare EGC’s in the sub-panel. This is something I haven’t seen yet for a newer build and don’t understand why I don’t see any EGC’s / individual branch circuit EGC’s.

Meter and disconnect are on the 5th floor. Neutral buss is appropriately not bonded and the ground buss only has one larger gauge green wire (8 gauge?) attached. The white neutrals are labeled “equipment grounding path component” which is also throwing me off.

Receptacles are testing grounded and I have no reason to think otherwise except I can’t determine where the EGC’s are connected.

Can someone help me understand why I don’t see bare EGC’s? Are they connected to the single green wire outside of this sub-panel?


I would imagine the EGC is metal conduit.

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That sounds right, thanks Christopher! Off my game with an illness the last few weeks…should have been able to come up with that one on my own with a little thought, duh.

Agree…
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NM cable would not typically be allowed in a building of that height.

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The wiring method is Type AC or armored cable (AKA BX) in which the metal jacket is the EGC

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Horse of a different color.

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With my post above I was going to put / armored cable. I just didn’t want to confuse anybody

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Yep… Inspectors confuse AC and BX all the time!!

Any reason why they’re confused? Type AC and BX are the same thing.

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Yes, Rob, they are…LOL!

Now, maybe referring to conduit vs AC/BX.

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My understanding is that BX is the branded name of an armored cable. Ie. Kleenex is to tissue paper as BX is to AC. Is that correct?

You posting “metal conduit” was all I needed to get pointed in the right direction :smiley: And now I’m getting getting refreshed on all the different types of metal conduit/cabling.

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That is correct, BX is old the brand name for armored cable.

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@rmeier2
Sure! Years ago, I was also confused and got so sick of reserching to only ever come up with no direct answer, or some BS about how one of them has a ground wire (or thin metal strip), while the other doesn’t, and then something to do with the material the ‘armor’ is manufactured from and whether it could be used for grounding or not!
Finally, I got fed up and said “F*ck it” and just stuck to AC.

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If anyone wanted to research codes for this type of wiring you would need to look at the article for AC cable. BX will not be found in the code.


BX Wiring Old Armored Cable - Kuhlman Electric(also%20known%20as,main%20wiring%20type%20by%201932.



I’m not sure how accurate the information is in Jeffery’s link. Type AC has been called BX even after the bonding strip was added in the 1950’s. It still called BX to this day in the field.

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Note; There are 4 links in that post, two of which are known to this association as reliable resources. The other two were simply quick Google results. I thought I would expand on my previous answer to your question.

BX cable is actually a branded name for AC