A 120/240 V, 3W Circuit (neutral) is spliced for continuity

Originally Posted By: jtedesco
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A 120/240 V, 3W branch circuit (neutral) is spliced here to ensure that its continuity will not be lost, that’s why it cannot rely on the terminals of the device, here that device is a receptacle.


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Originally Posted By: Bob Badger
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jtedesco wrote:
It is always better to splice the neutral, even on a two wire circuit, because it has been known to cause fires when it comes loose after time and where the branch circuit was supplying a load.


For a 120/240 V, 3W branch circuit neutral I agree with you 100%.

I do not agree with you about the grounded conductor of a two wire circuit.

The grounded conductor of a two wire circuit has no more or less potential to cause a fire than the ungrounded conductor due to a loose connection.

You might say it is better to splice all conductors of a circuit, but that is not a code requirement.

Bob


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Originally Posted By: jtedesco
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How about if I put a penny behind a 30 ampere fuse used for this circuit?


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Originally Posted By: Mike Parks
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IMHO


I do not understand why Joe's example is safe but if I put the other circuit on the same yoke it requires a "double" breaker. Yes I know that the above is code compliant, I just do not like it in a residential application.

This is one of the most dangerous conditions for the novice.

Mike P.


Originally Posted By: Ryan Jackson
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Mike Parks wrote:
IMHO

I do not understand why Joe's example is safe but if I put the other circuit on the same yoke it requires a "double" breaker. Yes I know that the above is code compliant, I just do not like it in a residential application.

This is one of the most dangerous conditions for the novice.

Mike P.


How is Joe's picture not safe?

If you show me somebody that doesn't know how to handle a multiwire branch circuit, I'll show you somebody that should keep the hell out of the box, novice or not!


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Originally Posted By: Mike Parks
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Ryan


I did not say that that Joe's set up was unsafe. Please re-read my post.

I think that we are 'thinking' past each other.

Mike P.