A mystery for you.

Originally Posted By: jhorton
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I am stumped on this one. I am hoping someone has the answer because I don’t!! I was called to play detective because of mysterious stains that have appeared on the carpet. And Mysterious they are!!


First the obvious. The house is built on a slab. I checked the water meter and there doesn't appear to be any water leaks. Teh pattern and distance of the stains appear to eliminate that. No roof leaks I can find and no signs of water penetration in any of the house.

The owner said she had placed tissue paper on the stains and they never picked up any moisture. The stains don't feel wet. If you rub your fingers across it you fingers feel oily and dirty but not wet.

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The stains start near the front of the house and where I would expect the water main to enter under the slab. But note how it goes around the furniture!

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It goes to the right and then curves around a rug on the floor. We pulled it back in this photo.

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In the other direction looking down the hallway going towards two bathrooms. Stains were most pronounced here. Problem is the stain in along both walls. That seems to eliminate the water line idea. No stains on the other sides of any of the walls.

Owner wanted me to pull up the carpet to take a look under it.

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I could see the carpet tape was stained and felt a bit oily, not wet.

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This is what we found under the padding. Just this dark stains. I could take a screw driver and they would scrape off the concrete. The slab appeared darker in the area of the stain but only slightly. No smells either.

I am stumped. The only thing I can possibly think of is that one the residents is in a motorized wheel chair. I thouhgt maybe it was leaking oil of something but the stains are not consistent. The room she spends most of her time in has no stains at all. Just the hall way and along the front exterior wall of the house and they are in spots and not consitant with her travels through the house.

BTW The hallway is in the center of the house, not along an outside wall like the other area that is stained.

Any clues??


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Originally Posted By: pdacey
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Do they repair cars in the hallway? (just kidding) icon_cool.gif


Judging from the amount of staining on the surface of the carpet and the minimal staining on the slab, I would guess whatever is causing it is doing it from on top of the carpet. The wheelchair sounds like the most likely culprit. Does the homeowner have any friends or relatives also in a wheelchair that visit frequently?


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Originally Posted By: pdacey
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Was the other rug that covers the carpet stained as well?



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Originally Posted By: jhorton
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pdacey wrote:
Was the other rug that covers the carpet stained as well?


Nope, just along the front wall and down the hall to the bedroom. And the funny thing is how it follows around furniture, walls and rugs. I strongly suspect the power chair but as I said, the room she spends the most time in is not stained at all. Unless it is only leaking when it is running a (relatively speaking) high speed.

I am going to talk to the other occupant about the chairs habits and see if there is a pattern that might relate to the stains.


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Originally Posted By: jhorton
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pdacey wrote:
Was the other rug that covers the carpet stained as well?


Nope, just along the front wall and down the hall to the bedroom. And the funny thing is how it follows around furniture, walls and rugs. I strongly suspect the power chair but as I said, the room she spends the most time in is not stained at all. Unless it is only leaking when it is running a (relatively speaking) high speed.

I am going to talk to the other occupant about the chairs habits and see if there is a pattern that might relate to the stains. But the carpet is only slightly oily feeling. Nothing makes sense!


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Originally Posted By: tallen
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I have never seen this before, but I have been told by carpet cleaners that some forms of cleaning can pull oil products from the carpet padding and can result in staining of the carpet.


Remember this is just hearsay from a carpet cleaner, and I have NO experience with this happening.

Let us know what you find.


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Originally Posted By: mcyr
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Check out http://www.ecarpetstains.com/chemical-spots.htm


Marcel

Hope this helps.


Originally Posted By: jhagarty
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URL does not work.



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Originally Posted By: kmcmahon
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http://www.ecarpetstains.com/chemical_spots.htm



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Originally Posted By: mcyr
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Excuse my ignorance, but what is URL and why does this not work, and if it doesn't what does. Please explain if you want to comment to help the person asking the question.
Marcel


Originally Posted By: kmcmahon
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URL= website address or (Uniform Resource Locator)


the address you provide didn’t work because of a character error. I corrected it in the post above.



Wisconsin Home Inspection, ABC Home Inspection LLC


Search the directory for a Wisconsin Home Inspector

Originally Posted By: mcyr
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Thanks Kevin


Originally Posted By: rharrington
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This is just a guess… it seems that these are down the same side… could it be that the person in the wheel chair has a beverage holder on the wheel chair and may have a habit of spilling a little going down the hall or next to those tables… may be some type of food also.


Checking the habits of the wheel chair occupant is a great idea.

My dad (rest his soul) was very messy during his wheel chair confinement as one arm was partially disabled.

Just a thought.

Rick


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Originally Posted By: cthompson
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I would get a plastic runner and place it where the stains are. Have the occupant live as usual and check for oil/moisture a day or two later. If the chair or occupant are leaking, the moisture will show up on top of the runner.


Originally Posted By: wpedley
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I would take some small samples of carpet and send it to a lab to have it analized. Any mold lab can tell you what is going on. Been there before. icon_smile.gif



BPedley


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Originally Posted By: wdecker
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Do they have a male cat that eats a lot of bacon grease?


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