Against the law to remove dead panel

That is nonsense. You can inspect the panel. Call me. I’ll explain in detail why what you were told is nonsense.

I’ve been doing home inspections in Ohio for 20 years. I’ve been a licensed electrical contractor in Ohio Since 1981. I am very familiar with the rules.

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“Mr Electrician, I’m sure you are 100% CORRECT, however my clients are WHINY BABY’s so I need YOU to provide the NEC, ICC, IRC codes or local laws that prohibit this SO I can show them and not get chewed out”.

Then keep doing what you’ve always done UNLESS shown otherwise

Perfect Mr Bowers. Thank you. For those in Ohio who want to participate, the meeting is Thursday not Tuesday. At the Rife building downtown Columbus, 22nd floor. Hope to see you there.

Thanks Mr Wells. What number should I call? I would very much like to chat.

Code books tell us the minimum standard for safely building a structure. It does not point out who opens up a cover. The local AJ has rules as to who does what work, we are not “working” on the panel. Just looking at it. No actual electrical work being done/installed. Basic maintenance does not require a permit in most places [replacing devices, replacing a load side breaker] A journeyman should be performing this work I am the AJ for electrical and know these rules in New Mexico at least.

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It’s OK to say that it was me. I no longer hold a license, and Terry only ESI can inspect the inside of an electrical panel. Electricians can not. I was licensed under R.C 4740 for 15 years and know what the limitations of my license was.

“Double tap” is a CODE violation, it has nothing to do with function, operation or relative hazard.

Terry if you want the correct answer - get it from the OBBS and not from a forum of individuals have never held the licenses or certifications mentioned.

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What part of this do you not get?

(B) The “practice of electrical inspection” includes any ascertainment of compliance with the Ohio building code, or the electrical code of a political subdivision of this state by a person, who, for compensation, inspects the construction and installation of electrical conductors, fittings, devices, and fixtures for light, heat or power services equipment, or the installation, alteration, replacement, maintenance, or repair of any electrical wiring and equipment that is subject to any of the aforementioned codes.

You can remove the cover. You just can’t comment on “the construction and installation of electrical conductors, fittings, devices, and fixtures for light, heat or power services equipment, or the installation, alteration, replacement, maintenance, or repair of any electrical wiring and equipment that is subject to any of the aforementioned codes.”

Please provide any statement from the State of Ohio that says that I am wrong.

Always love your input.

The only exception in Ohio law is found in the OAC:

https://com.ohio.gov/documents/4781$0-6-03.7-Rule-AM.pdf

BTW anyone can inspect an existing manufactured home. No Home Inspector License required.

Terry if you want to report on the interior condition of an electrical panel knock yourself out. Just know that what you are doing is fraud.

Again, call OBBS ask for Steve Regoli (614-644-2613) and tell him that you are reporting on how the panel is wired and see what he says.

Here is the language that OBBS provided to OHIB that never got shared with the state holders.

COE

This will be the law of the land by the time that this is all decided. I’m just giving you the heads up. Accept it or not.

That isn’t what you stated months ago.

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Do you remember this…

"“However, if a person holds them self out as a home inspector and offers to perform an inspection of the home and its systems but indicates that they will issue a report indicating the state of function, operation or relative hazards, but not refer to code compliance, they would not be in violation of this law.” "

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@rlewis5 I heard he is moving to Florida :smiley:

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Please NO!

LOL…LOL…LOL!

And looking for a mentor :stuck_out_tongue:

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One foot on crazy the other on a banana peel… :grinning:

I was the cause of that! Mark Roe asked for an opinion because of me.

Removing a cover is not part of a home inspection in Ohio.

He who laughs last …

You are an idiot!

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Remember this?..

"Here is the letter from the Board of Building Standards:

The law related to electrical inspections is not new. Since 1970, persons holding themselves out to perform electrical inspections have been required to be certified by the Ohio Board of Building Standards as Electrical Safety Inspectors.

For the purpose of this law, “practice of electrical inspection” includes any ascertainment of compliance with the Ohio building code, or the electrical code of a political subdivision of this state by a person, who, for compensation, inspects the construction and installation of electrical conductors, fittings, devices, and fixtures for light, heat or power services equipment, or the installation, alteration, replacement, maintenance, or repair of any electrical wiring and equipment that is subject to any of the aforementioned codes. (taken from ORC Chapter 3783.)

This means that if a person is paid to inspect a home, and indicates that they are inspecting the electrical system in accordance with the code, and they are not certified by the Ohio Board of Building Standards as an Electrical Safety Inspector, they would be in violation of the law.

“No person shall engage in the practice of electrical inspection in this state unless he is the holder of a certificate of competency as an electrical safety inspector issued under Chapter 3783. of the Revised Code. Any person practicing or offering to practice electrical inspection shall show proof of his certification upon request as provided by rules of the board of building standards.” (taken from ORC Chapter 3783.)

However, if a person holds them self out as a home inspector and offers to perform an inspection of the home and its systems but indicates that they will issue a report indicating the state of function, operation or relative hazards, but not refer to code compliance, they would not be in violation of this law. "

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