Came back when the snow was melting off the roof and took a look in the crawlspace of the home I thought had sufficient slope away from the foundation… puddles. Wet soil. A lot of it.
Originally Posted by wwarner
Educate this builder/broker
"Gutters do not create ice dams. Insulation problems and poor attic ventilation issues create ice dams."
A lot of these homes have vaulted ceilings so there’s not a lot to be done without spending a lot of monoey if they haven’t been constructed well. They take low bids on the insulation and yeah, they install baffles, but they flatten the baffles against the sheathing during installation and so there goes the air flow keeping the roof cold and here come the ice dams.
I think that just like a lot of situations, there’s no one answer for all climates and styles of building. Err on the safe side when considering recommending gutters.
The photo from the crawlspace is just inside the right side of the foundation of the home on the side you’re looking at. I found plastic under the deck used in an attempt to improve drainage. This home needs gutters.