Please ignore my last message. Now I see what you mean.
CB
But isn’t that crazy?? 10 grand for some lawyer to write some agreement using common terms that have been around for years. It’s nuts, I mean how can they justify that. Anyway that isn’t the only reason I left,… why would I pay hundreds of dollars to be at a marketing disavantage? Plus everytime I turn around they want 400 bucks for this or that and even 30 or 40 bucks for a breakfast one time. So I asked why so much? It’s just bacon and eggs,… someone belittled me for asking and claimed it was well worth it. i said good luck with that.
The other kicker is, at the time I was a student member,… so not allow to practice until you meet their requirements, and you need money to meet their requirements - its a catch 22. How can I get ahead,… so I go back to work at a full time job,… the monthly meetings are 9:00am to 11:00am during the week,… well I’m at WORK! Basically I was not able to benefit from being a member so good bye!
Hi Raymond,
Interesting read but I’m really not surprised. I have a few interesting experience of my own, which all led me to make the decision to leave.
Cheers,
CS
Chris,
From what I am hearing OAHI has been imposting mandatory fines without any form of hearing.
Even though the by-laws state you are not suppose to be inspecting as a Student that portion of the by-law has no weight. OAHI cannot stop you from earning a livelihood, particularly if you are inspecting and not even mentioning any affliation with OAHI. It not only runs contrary to the Constitutional guarantees, it is down right ignorant for management and committees to be thinking they can enforce it. This is why they don’t want students and Applicants having the vote. Just as they did not want the Associates to have the right to vote til I made it an issue and finally they succumb to permitting the vote, but Terry Carson who for years has and his clique have been putting their personal stamp on everything and was adamant that Associates had no right to vote because to allow such would allow Associates to vote on their entry requirement! This is so myopic and downright misleading, but people saw through it. It is the Students who keep OAHI in the black.
OAHI is nothing but a clique, extorting money to ensure the BOD and others on certain Committees are able to power trip and act like the zealots they are.
The word is getting out and more people should be speaking up because this is what will eventually turn the tide from incompetence.
Again how can anyone be assured of anything with the National when you have so much corruption within and when its actively promoted?
ONTARIO ASSOCIATION OF HOME INSPECTORS ACT, 1994
http://www.ontla.on.ca/hansard/committee_debates/35_parl/session3/regsbils/t029.htm#P256_32987
Seems Mr. Carson and Mr. Segal have not lived up to what they promised the Ontario Legislature.
I’m not surprised about any of this.
Currently there are more Students in OAHI than any other members status. So I assume they are a big cash flow for the organization. But unless you have a lot of money it is hard to follow their rules and make it to RHI. And as I said you are at a marketing disadvantage when you are an associate member and the guy beside you is RHI. In addition the organization does more promoting of RHI than anything else. How are you suppose to get business this way?
In addition I found the organization terrible unorganized. The only person that you can actually contact for information is Wendy. I was told when I had to appeal a decision for education exemption that the BOD does not respond to email or phone calls that they only address them in their meetings. I told them that was unacceptable and should be more personal. They shouldn’t deny people exemption without explaining why they made that decision. In the same email they advised me I could take the challenge exam for $160 bucks! Ya right.
They tried that with me an they spent ±$35,000:00 trying to prove my wrong .
I then started a law suit in small claims to get some of my out of pocket expenses.
They settled the day before court after advising me they would have my claim transfered to a higher court .
I guess intimidation worked for them and I settled for $1,000:00 again this information has never been
given to the membership or what the true cost was to the OAHI funds.
Typical of OAHI never give out much information to the membership .
Can you say old boys club.
I feel the BOD does not have much say in how the association is run it is still the past pres club who tell the BOD how to do things .
To bad it could have been great for all Ontario Home Inspectors.
Roy Cooke sr … RHI… CAHPI-ON…
The more I hear,
the more I see!
NACHI is the one for me !
Roy Cooke R.H.I. Royshomeinspection.com
A HAPPY NACHI MEMBER,… More find this out ever day!
Remember Whistler http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4935
Roy they settled because they new you would succeed in your claim, given that the two players admitted breaking and acting outside the by-laws and that it was animosity that drove the process. What did not come out and is a well known fact is that there was also a conspiracy to do you in at the most highest levels. I should know, I sat in on one BOD meeting and was flabbergasted at the negative derogatory remarks made by people in a position of power. Apprehension of bias? You bet ya.
Its great to see people in position of power negligently spending the members money.
hi guys!!
re-student memberships
i’m currently finishing my home inspection course at george brown college,one of the requirements of oahi as you all know is having taken a course called “intro to home inspection” it is only offered at humber college so i took this course.the instructors name at the time was harry jensen,he was a founding father of oahi his no. is R.H.I. 3 or 5 anyway he was really pushing all 40 students to join oahi as student members,some of the students asked him about nachi,nahi, and other associations and his response was not favouerable.i later found his name on members list for nachi!! i think nick has since deleted his name as a member.i also took defect and regocnition course that oahi puts on,what a joke.and a waste of money.
i have not joined this organisation and i don’t plan to.i will join only if for some reason they impede my ability of earning a living as a home inspector,{not being able to practice as a home inspector unless you are a member of oahi}
OAHI MEMBERSHIP TOTALS
as of January 31, 2006
RHI (Registered Home Inspector) 222
Associate 98
Applicant 6
Applicant without logo privileges 155
Students 275
Retired 24
Friends of the OAHI 6
TOTAL MEMBERSHIP 786
Strange that Friends of OAHI are being counted as members, even though they don’t pay any money. Got to keep those membership numbers up eh!
Mario.
Harry is there at Humber along with his affiliates to push their inspection report software. Just as one member of this biz is a member of Nachi to ensure their inspection reporting software and other wares are marketed to Nachi. His membership number in Oahi is #4.
I know Harry was not happy with the way things in OAHI were going a number of years ago, because he told me so. Maybe he tells different stories to different people. But in the end he does have product to push, just as others on the BOD do either on CAHPI or the OAHI board.
BTW my membership number in OAHI is 00029. 
I was once advised by a BOD member that if I complain too much that the organization can make things difficult for me. I don’t take threats very well so I started paying more attention to how the organization operated. A lot of things puzzled me about OAHI so once I discovered NACHI I decided that it was best for me to switch.
However, NACHI does not appear to be without its problems. It needs to improve it’s visibility in Canada. I had to spoon feed a bunch of realtors and educate them about NACHI since they didn’t know about them.
Also, for someone like me it is easy to to pass all the exams (i.e. electrical, ethics etc). They probably should make the entrance a little hard in order to dismiss any negative claims. But then again what the hell do I know about these things.
raymond
just for your info harry is no longer teaching at humber,he is no longer doing home inspections,last i heard he is in the hospital with an artificial heart.and he is on a waiting list for a transplant.he had a pace maker and he colapsed in the classroom and i guess he was admitted to hospital.
and you are right he is involved with “inspection support services” a good thing now because the man can’t work anymore.
Harry is back in the hospital. He had an unfortunate fall and setback is now in an induced coma. I hope everyone wishes Harry well. Certainly my thoughts and prayers are for a good speedy recovery. He had a mechanical heart operation about a month ago, and is still on the waiting list for a transplant.
He has had several inspectors cover and work for him in the meantime. So I would not count him out. In addition Harry along with Ron Nokes, helped with the onsite inspections, mentoring inspectors and teaching in class for Humber College. Harry has not been able to work in those functions.
I know Harry does not discount NACHI, so over time like many views can change. Here’s a Harry, Nick and Ron at the NACHI Conference a year and half ago.
I am so sorry to hear about Harry .
He always treated me well and I sure do hope he pulls out of this and carries on to a great and long life .
Roy Cooke sr.
OAHI is well known for blackballing and intimidating. They tried it with me and I told them to take a long walk. Its a clique, and its surprising how many members are willing to put up with it until its there turn to be blackballed. Whats really disheartening is the lack of understanding of the by-laws and what and cannot be done under the by-laws. There are many gullible people in OAHI.**
Just remember OAHI is not happy til you’re not happy! **
Nachi does not appear to offer the same support to Canadian members as it does state side. But every association has its problems but in comparison to OAHI Nachi seems more open and accomodating and service oriented. I have no reason to doubt that Nachi members are just as competent as OAHI or CAHPI members.
Mario,Christoper,Craig and Rob.
I thank you so much for speaking out and telling it like it is with OAHI And CAHPI.
I too was told by an ex director from Ottawa that I should not be saying the things I do as this Board is monitored and it could come back to haunt me .
I was also told another ex director ( who posts frequently on this NACHI site )
that I should make sure what and how I post as some is quite close to be libelous and that there was records being kept on me and a day of reckoning could be comming .
I was also told by another ex OAHI director that he was going to have his lawyer send me a letter and I would see them in court.
This I again take as a form of Intimidation from those in power and I will not be shut down .
I just wish that some one of these people from OAHI/CAHPI had the gonads to look at how they have been treated by OAHI and would also stand up for what they know improper and how so many other Members have been to move on to other means of making a living .
I am sorry for these who allow this to continue to happen.
It is not only the members who have not made RHIs who have been treated unfairly by those in power , but some great inspectors who have just given up and others who do not have the courage to stand up for their fellow Inspectors .
I have been chastised and said let the past go well it is still going an the way it has in the past .
If it was wrong then it is wrong now .
At least 6 ex directors have tried to stop from my wanting to help all Canadian Home inspectors and some more who are not yet in power.
I have been accused of Knocking OAHI ( wrong I just knock those who do not follow the rules ) and I think it unfortunately is every one on the BOD of OAHI.
These people who are self appointed expect to run the National Certification
Well if they run it like they run OAHI?CAHPI?
I feel sorry for all Canadian Home Inspectors.
The more I hear,
the more I see!
NACHI is the one for me !
Roy Cooke R.H.I. Royshomeinspection.com
A HAPPY NACHI MEMBER,… More find this out ever day!
Remember Whistler http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4935
I also was informed by the DPPC that a complaint has been filed for posting the following. They are accusing me of Conduct Unbecoming a Member! Someone thinks my post is harmful to him, and are not based on merit or proof.
Less anyone think OAHI-CAHPI members do not read these posts on NACHI, think again! As we have always believed and stated a good number of OAHI-CAHPI members come here to do just that; read the latest gaffs by OAHI-CAHPI!
** I think you mean disregard for the rules.
Lets see…
- you have a number of people in OAHI on committees who have a product to sell.
- a executive director of OAHI who sell franchises and sits on the CAHPI BOD, and DPPC of OAHI.
- Two committee member who sell their wares and college courses.
- another former Director who put in writing that he was a volunteer and not paid to deal with complaints or questions. (I guess he figures its beneath him) But his election platform was juvenile. He is now president of OACETT. But he still sits on the BOE and the By-law committee ( I think this accounts for some of the stupid decisions and actions by the BOD.)
-you have other members selling their reports to their colleagues, who keep quiet for fear of ruining thier little mony making efforts.
-there are no minutes of meetings for members to review.
-there are improper bookkeeping techniques and lack of financial reports and accountability.
-you have some members being singled out for using CHI while other members seem to be getting away with using it based on thier positions within OAHI.
-you have a disfunctional Discipline Committee. I have yet to receive a reply to my long outstanding complaints as do others.
-you have members who are permitted and condoned for making physical threats against other members and non members.
-you have a Registrar who doesn’t know her job.
-you have a CAFE forum monitor who does not know her job and takes marching orders without question and is being paid by membership money, who was formerly employed by one long time director.
-you have the Secretary Mr. Faux dispensing his own brand of justice and imposing fines contrary to the Association lawyers own rules laid down and posted on this forum. Mr. Faux election platform was a joke and spoke to his intentions that he has carried out.
-you have a non functional insurance committee.
-you have a non functional finance committee.
-you have members admitting to an Appeal Board that they knowingly and with animosities and bias breached the by-laws who go undisciplined and caused $35K of membership money to be wasted.
-we have had a Past President intimidate, and throw books across the room at other directors for not siding with him.
-a treasurer who resigned due to improper accounting.
-in the past a former Treasurer absconded with $65K of association money.
-you have backroom deals being made with CAHPI in which no membership votes have been conducted.
-you have an Association lawyer who seems to ignore much of the wrong doings yet still invoices OAHI for his poor advice.
-you have the OAHI Ombudsman stating that someone should pick up a shot-gun and use it on Mr. Wand!
Yes OAHI certainly seems to be at the forefront of democracy, and objectivitiy and special interests and all round stupidity. But don’t take my word for it, just ask those who have experienced it. OAHI is content on taking Students money, imposing fines under false pretences, and thinks its answerable to no one. Yes membership certainly has it privileges!** ** NOT !**
Gee I guess it’s time for the Directors of OAHI and CAHPI to do the proper thing and lay charges
against Raymond Wand and Roy Cooke for all the false information the have been putting on an open Bulletin Board.
They have had enough members Tell them to do something about those two .
Just maybe these directors know that they will have a big problem if they do.
Just maybe these directors would like to do the proper thing open the books up to a complete and
proper forensic audit with a government appointed firm.
This would soon show all the members what and where the truth is.
Gee this NACHI BB sure is a great place for much information to get out that would not be told with out it .
Remember Whistler http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4935
Roy Cooke … RHI Royshomeinspection.com… CAHPI-ONT
I suppose the recent events answer my original question,…:shock: !!!</IMG>