Does a residential main service panel require a main breaker

Originally Posted By: jtedesco
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Question Received via Email posted here for discussion.


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Does a residential main service panel require a main breaker?

This house is in Florida and was built in 1993, it has 18 - 110V breakers and 1 - 220V breakers?

There are no other disconnects to shut down the electric with one single throw. Your comments would be appreciated.



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Originally Posted By: jpope
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Home Inspection 101


6 throws maximum for service disconnect.


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Jeff Pope
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Originally Posted By: dedwards
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Ditto…What he said.


Originally Posted By: gbeaumont
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Like them other guys said icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif


regards

Gerry


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Originally Posted By: loconnor
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6 throws maximum for service disconnect???


Please explain. Some of us are not quite
up to speed on shop talk lingo.

Thank you


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Originally Posted By: Ryan Jackson
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Larry: If you can’t shut down the whole building with 6 or less circuit breakers you have a problem.



Ryan Jackson, Salt Lake City

Originally Posted By: jfarsetta
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“The rule of sixes” applies…



Joe Farsetta


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Originally Posted By: dvalley
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The service disconnecting means shall consist of not more than six switches or circuit breakers mounted in a single enclosure or in a group of separate enclosures.



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Originally Posted By: roconnor
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jfarsetta wrote:
"The rule of sixes" applies...

Better known as the "six switch rule" ... ![icon_wink.gif](upload://ssT9V5t45yjlgXqiFRXL04eXtqw.gif)


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I am absolutely amazed sometimes by how much thought goes into doing things wrong

Originally Posted By: Mike Parks
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Ryan


"Larry: If you can't shut down the whole building with 6 or less circuit breakers you have a problem."

Not necessarily true.

Mike P.


Originally Posted By: Bob Badger
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OK 7 if you have a fire pump, not a normal dwelling unit feature. icon_lol.gif



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Originally Posted By: Mike Parks
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Bob


![icon_biggrin.gif](upload://iKNGSw3qcRIEmXySa8gItY6Gczg.gif)

Guys and gals some of what we post confuses you, as it should. Why we do this is to show you that the tradespeople do not always agree.

For me I do it because the others that post make me think. And, I do what to help to give you good information.

Mike P.


Originally Posted By: Ryan Jackson
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Mike: Are you trying to be an instructor or something? Why bring up an issue to confuce people intentionally when it doesn’t apply? Why would a home inspector care about the fact that tradespeople don’t always agree?



Ryan Jackson, Salt Lake City

Originally Posted By: Steve Yared
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I have a general question on some of the items we report, like the 6 breaker rule. It’s in the NEC, so does that make us code inspectors? Does it really matter that there are 6 switches instead of 7 or 8 or 9. BTW I do report the 6 switch shutoff to clients because that’s the way I was taught, but sometimes I wonder what the issue is with it.



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Originally Posted By: jpope
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Theoretically, the NEC (and other authorities) implement codes for reasons of safety. Our job is to report on (among other things) safety concerns. If the NEC feels that 7 breakers is too many and therefore unsafe, we, as “generalists,” cannot argue this matter.



Jeff Pope


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Originally Posted By: Mike Parks
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Ryan


It is to show them that when they make 'code' statements, they are doing something for which they are not 'qualified' to do so.

Let me ask you this.

As a certified inspector do you feel that non-certified persons should be commenting on things that are out of their field of expertise?

I am trying to keep them from saying things that they can not back-up in court.

Mike P.


Originally Posted By: jtedesco
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Mike Parks wrote:
Bob

![icon_biggrin.gif](upload://iKNGSw3qcRIEmXySa8gItY6Gczg.gif)

Guys and gals some of what we post confuses you, as it should. Why we do this is to show you that the tradespeople do not always agree.

For me I do it because the others that post make me think. And, I do what to help to give you good information.

Mike P.


WE

Mike: How can you speak for me! WE I disagree! I came here to help the Home Inspector's. I wish you would do the same!


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Originally Posted By: jpeck
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Mike Parks wrote:
Ryan

It is to show them that when they make 'code' statements, they are doing something for which they are not 'qualified' to do so.

Let me ask you this.

As a certified inspector do you feel that non-certified persons should be commenting on things that are out of their field of expertise?

I am trying to keep them from saying things that they can not back-up in court.

Mike P.


Not ALL HIs fit your description.

I know many electricians who fit your description better than many HIs I know.

I use the term "electricians" loosely because they are licensed and are doing the work, therefore, one would expect them to be "electricians".


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Jerry Peck
South Florida

Originally Posted By: Mike Parks
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If you disagree with me please quote a specific line.


Saying that you do not like my statements says nothing.

I do not mind to be proven wrong.

NOW show me where I have done anything NOT to help or INFORM.

I have never said that HI's should not look at electrical. I just do not want them to cross the line.

Joe and Jerry

You are both certified. Please show me the line. IE where does a HI cross the line.

Mike P.


Originally Posted By: jtedesco
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Mike Parks wrote:
If you disagree with me please quote a specific line.

Saying that you do not like my statements says nothing.

I do not mind to be proven wrong.

NOW show me where I have done anything NOT to help or INFORM.

I have never said that HI's should not look at electrical. I just do not want them to cross the line.

Joe and Jerry

You are both certified. Please show me the line. IE where does a HI cross the line.

Mike P.


No Mike let's hear your side of the story!


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