Originally Posted By: tallen This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Did you pull the cover plate on at leaste 1 of them to see how or if the neutral was landed? Point is they might have conected the N to the load side? Hot on the line Nuetral on the load? Or I could be wrong
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Originally Posted By: tallen This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Sorry, I missread your question. I still say that if all 6 did the same thing there is a wiring problem. Where is Mike , Bob and Joe when you need them?
Did the rest of the outlets test OK?
What did you report? Bad GFCI's??
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Originally Posted By: jpeck This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Jeff,
That is a problem inspectors in my area found and reported to Leviton and other manufacturers.
A study was financed (partially by Leviton) and it turns out that about 80% of the older GFCIs were defective in various ways. One of those ways is that they reset with reverse polarity.
The new GFCI requirements are a result of some of the results of that study.
Now, when a GFCI is not wired properly (line / load reversed) and / or defective, there are internal protections against resetting incorrectly. Leviton has a 'Lock Out' system in that it will not reset unless it is wired properly and unless it resets properly.
There is but one solution - replace those defective GFCIs.
By-the-way ... get a GOOD tester. YOU ... ARE ... A ... PROFESSIONAL, don't use those cheap homeowner night lights (that is about what they are good for), they are unreliable and short lived for our use.
Originally Posted By: jpeck This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Todd,
No recall, just new and improved standards they now must meet.
They were even allowed to ship stock and sell warehoused units. The new standard only effected new ones manufactured after the cut off date (of which I am drawing a mental blank right now).
Originally Posted By: jpope This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
jpeck wrote:
A study was financed (partially by Leviton) and it turns out that about 80% of the older GFCIs were defective in various ways. One of those ways is that they reset with reverse polarity.
The new GFCI requirements are a result of some of the results of that study.
Jerry,
Do you know where I can see the study and results? I am having a bit of an issue with a homeowner on another property where I found this same problem.
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Originally Posted By: jpeck This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Mike Parks wrote:
PS
If they will not reset replace tham.
My above post was to let you know what 'might' happen.
You do not want a sparky to come in and say that the HI does not know how to reset GFCI's.
That said, the new GFCI's will 'lock' you out if they are bad.
Mike P.
Mike,
I hate to take issue with two of your posts in a row, but I must.
"You do not want a sparky to come in and say that the HI does not know how to reset GFCI's."???? This would be one for the books - mark the date and time - it is the ELECTRICIAN who does not know a defective GFCI when he sees one.
A GFCI must reset - PROPERLY - each and every time, and there should be ONLY ONE WAY to reset a GFCI. IF there is more than one way, the GFCI is defective.
If you came after me and said that, you would be coming BACK OUT to replace it, and probably at no charge, because you SHOULD HAVE replaced it when you were there the first time.