Originally Posted By: jpope
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Originally Posted By: ccoombs
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That is too funny!!!
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Curtis
Originally Posted By: rbennett
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When Murrfy is on the job you are ok
Just non invasive visual inspection
RLB
Originally Posted By: bbadger
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| jpope wrote: |
| "You're gonna want to get that fixed." |
 LOL
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Originally Posted By: kfulton
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That…is just classic
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Originally Posted By: aslimack
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Jeff,
Just wondering, was the suretest origionally used to verify that the outlet was an un-ground 3-prong, or was their reason you suspected something more diabolical?
Adam, A Plus
Originally Posted By: rbennett
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Just for the record
What was the problem?? or was this like the FAA trying to find out what caused the plane to crash
Any lesson learned other than take an extra pair of short with you
RLB
Originally Posted By: Michael D Thomas
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OK, clearly a defect receptacle.
Still, was it me, I?d have to wonder:
?Did I just did happen to be there for the "magic moment", or might that 10+ amp transient load applied by the tester have something to with it...."
Originally Posted By: gbeaumont
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| Jeff P wrote: |
| When I pulled it out, the fireworks began. It took about 3 full seconds - of brilliant white light and the sound of bacon on the frying pan - to trip the breaker at the panel. You could have heard a pin drop afterward.
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I still like Jerry Pecks "Failed under testing" comment  
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Gerry
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Originally Posted By: jpope
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| gbeaumont wrote: |
| I still like Jerry Pecks "Failed under testing" comment   |
That's how the report reads!!
All accessible receptacles are tested - this one just so happened to be first. I'm not too sure what the problem was. The receptacle "shifted" when I unplugged my tester and apparently shorted itself somehow.
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Originally Posted By: dbush
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Jeff, I had something similiar happen; however, it had a metal receptacle cover on it; and the screw was loose, so the cover came in contact with the tester. Client said “After that is fixed, I am going to remove all of the metal cover plates.”
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Originally Posted By: jsandin
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I would have to say that there might be a problem there… send that one to Readers Digest LOL
Originally Posted By: jjackson
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Jeff
I hope your Sure Test is OK.
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Originally Posted By: mtimpani
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very nice
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Originally Posted By: Mark Dudley
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Looks like a metal box and you say the outlet shifted when you removed the tester. It probably pushed the terminals against the metal box and viola, instant short.
That's why I don't build with metal boxes.. 
Originally Posted By: jmyers
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Mark,
While I can understand your decision to use plastic, one of the big turnoffs to installing plastic is that some decided it was alright to be sloppy since the potential to harm was minimized. Now, instead of the receptacle shorting out on the box, it just pulls completely out of the wall. 
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Originally Posted By: Mark Dudley
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I dunno… someone that is going to do sloppy work is probably going to do it whether it’s in plastic or metal. About the only time I see metal boxes in new construction now is when conduit is used (especially on commercial), or the outlet is for a ceiling fan or hard wired electrical appliance (such as a dishwasher).
Originally Posted By: pdickerson
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Wow, great story Jeff! Please keep us updated if their are any further ramifications. I had an owner get upset when his already broken kitchen sink p-trap fell into several pieces when I touched it. He said “it worked when you arrived, and now it doesn’t, so you need to pay to have it fixed.” Has the owner of the fireworks home held you responsible for the repairs?
Also, what brand of circuit breaker took 3 full seconds to trip under what sounds like a direct short? It should have tripped in 3 milliseconds. Yikes!
Originally Posted By: Michael Martin
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It took three full seconds for a breaker to trip on a dead short?? That doesn’t sound tight.
Originally Posted By: Michael Martin
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Um… I meant “right,” not “tight.” Also, I know there are time curves for breakers to trip, but it sure seems like three seconds at a dead short is more than enough time to ignite nearby combustibles. Properly sized, I prefer fuses…