Originally Posted By: ekartal This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Fairly common here with new construction. Although the home I inspected last week had missing nails in the joist hangers. Not too many, but I reported it.
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Thanks, guys. Hadn’t seen it before.
Inside, however, there were cracked floor tiles all over the place. Since I'm familiar with floor tile installations, the type of floor joists was causing me concern.
I note in looking at Jeff's post that the joist sections seem to be staggered and quite close together. Look at my original picture, and here's another picture showing the concrete block foundation. Comments on the installation? Properly installed?
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Hi Russel,
the instalation that you have seen is pretty typical of it's type, and from the photo's I see nothing wrong with it. however all engineered components like this are designed for very specific spans and loads, and it is not beyond reason that these trusses could be over spanned or overloaded. without knowing all the facts (and not being a P.E.) I would probably report based on your finding of cracked tiles over the subfloor above that further evaluation by a PE maybe advisable.
PS. I know a certain Mr Oconnor PE who would work real cheap for some Ca sun about now 
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gbeaumont wrote:
PS. I know a certain Mr Oconnor PE who would work real cheap for some Ca sun about now 
If I can bring my harley, I would work for room, board, and margaritas about now with the winter we have been having ...
Evaluating I-Joists gets a little involved, but just like any other framing system the important things for an HI to look for, in addition to general workmanship and deterioration, are deflection and movement. Try to look along the bottom 2x4/flange, and if ya can see any bowing it may be an issue (deflection shouldn't be any more than about 1/4" for every 10'). Also, bounce on the floor in the center span to see if you can feel any movements ... you shouldn't feel very much ... 
For general workmanship, see the guide Richard referenced ... it's excellent. Mostly, builders seem to sometimes forget the required bearing blocks ("squash blocks") which are pieces of wood fit between the top and bot flanges where the I-Joists bear on a support, or where the hangers dont support both the top and bottom flanges. Standard hangers won't fly. The particle board webs do not have a lot of strength, and are like a wet noodle if they get damp.
Hope that helps, and let me know if ya need an engineer who works cheap for some sunshine in the winter ...
-- Robert O'Connor, PE
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9205 Hillside Drive, Spring Valley.
The bike's raring to go. She really gets neglected with this inspection company, although I use her to get through traffic during tourist season. Bikes can use the carpool lanes and, if the traffic is less than 35 mph, can split lanes. Makes it really useful for delivering reports.
I call her the Shuttlecraft. My main car is the Enterprise, and my work car is Voyager.
"Scotty. Beam O'Connor out of that snowy wasteland and to my ready garage. Don't forget his Harley."
"Aye, Captain. I hear ye's gon' ta search fur some margaritas. Why bother? I've some good Scotch whiskey stashed away."
"Scotty, you know how I feel about Scotch. Just beam O'Connor over."
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rkirk wrote:
"Scotty. Beam O'Connor out of that snowy wasteland and to my ready garage. Don't forget his Harley."
Sounds like a plan Russell ... "Scotty, beam me up!" ... 
Gerry ... I'm not telling what engineers use to check deflection for things like this, but I have a feeling you just might figure it out and will be surfing ebay later. See if they have a pair of skis for sale too for that slippery slope you will be on (duck) ... 
-- Robert O'Connor, PE
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NACHI Education Committee
I am absolutely amazed sometimes by how much thought goes into doing things wrong
Originally Posted By: rray This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
I’ve laid a lot of tile floors, even on 20’ raised mountainside foundations, most of it successful in the later years (early years, well, that’s another story–live and learn), but I had not run across 2x2’s. Just the thought of 2x2’s scares me. I don’t care who engineered them. In earthquake country, it ain’t gonna be 2x2’s under my feet.
