Ground Wire

Originally Posted By: jane molina
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Hi


In houses built ibefore the 60"s , it is common not to have grounded


outlets[2 prong] which mean that the panel will not have a ground wire


leading to a pipe or water heater ect…is this correct?


Originally Posted By: rfarruggia
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yes or no. it depends.


Is this a metric house or was it built to Imperial standards?


Originally Posted By: Greg Fretwell
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All services in the US will be grounded. Whether this ground is brought to the individual device boxes is an open question. If iyt was FHA or a “GI Bill” house federal regs said it was supposed to use a grounded wiring method and grounded boxes but it may still have 2 prong outlets.


If the feds didn’t actually inspect the house YMMV. My early 50s home did have the paper Romex with downsized ground but that was inside the (not yet built) beltway.


You still should have grounding at the stove, dryer and bonding to the plumbing which will be metal … until a homeowner adds some plastic.


Originally Posted By: jane molina
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Thanks guys


Don’t all residental homes have to be grounded ?


This picture of this 1949 home had grounded bathroom and garage


only and it had 100amp at the service panel but it did not have a


#8 gauge ground wire to to a buss at the panel .


My understanding is that before 1960 , it only had to be


grounded to the panel to rod or


water pipe. It was after that year they started running grounds from


outles to panel buss bar.Just wondering because of the age of the house


if this would be called out . Does this make sense?


Thanks again guys
Jane
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Originally Posted By: kwilliams
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Ok Jane, we all want to Know ! Are you also Tony, Mike and Jim ( still don’t know who Jim is )



Member - MAB


http://www.nachi.org/convention2006.htm

Originally Posted By: jane molina
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No sorry , just me . Who are they and what would make you


say that anyway?


Originally Posted By: kbaldwin
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Unique ID: D908-53-43BB49


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Originally Posted By: jane molina
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I see now , well this computer is used by quit a few people


on this campus , wether that has anything to do with it, so who knows.


Gotta go I start my vacation soon



Thanks


Originally Posted By: pdacey
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I think Jane and Tony are one in the same. Not only are their unique IDs the same but if you look at their posts they both usually fill the post subject line of each individual post. I haven’t seen anyone else do that.


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I see now , well this computer is used by quit a few people
on this campus , wether that has anything to do with it, so who knows.
Gotta go I start my vacation soon


Thanks

Unique ID: D908-53-43BB49



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Originally Posted By: jbehling
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jane molina wrote:
I see now , well this computer is used by quit a few people
on this campus , wether that has anything to do with it, so who knows.
Gotta go I start my vacation soon


Thanks


Me thinks the vacation will be a long one. ![icon_lol.gif](upload://zEgbBCXRskkCTwEux7Bi20ZySza.gif) ![icon_lol.gif](upload://zEgbBCXRskkCTwEux7Bi20ZySza.gif)


Originally Posted By: pdacey
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Tony has not posted since the “outing” from the other thread.



Slainte!


Patrick Dacey
swi@satx.rr.com
TREC # 6636
www.southwestinspections.com

Originally Posted By: Greg Fretwell
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Maybe Tony just likes to get “pretty” now and then. Who cares?


Lets stay on the subject … whatever it was.


Originally Posted By: jane molina
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Really , some of you guys have got to find better things to do with your


time than avoid a question you may not be able to answer …sooooo


for those who want to…


I believe the subject was Grounds.........
Don't all residental homes have to be grounded ?
This picture of this 1949 home had grounded bathroom and garage
only and it had 100amp at the service panel but it did not have a
#8 gauge ground wire to to a buss at the panel .
My understanding is that before 1960 , it only had to be
grounded to the panel to rod or
water pipe. It was after that year they started running grounds from
outles to panel buss bar.Just wondering because of the age of the house
if this would be called out . Does this make sense? Talk to ya all
Monday I am taking a little vacation to see some friends in Modesto,Ca
which is really strange because one of them lives down the street from
the infamous Scott Peterson home.

See ya




http://www.nachi.org/bbsystem/usrimages/more/1949%20house%20ground.jpg


Originally Posted By: Greg Fretwell
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The service needs to be grounded somewhere, no matter how old the house is. The grounding electrode conductor could be in the meter base. It can be anywhere on the neutral from the from the load side of the service point to the service disconnect. Usually that is either in the meter base or the service disconnect enclosure.