How many climb on roofs?

Originally Posted By: jhugenroth
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Originally Posted By: rmoore
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Not picking on you Will, but I had to laugh when I saw your first photo "steeproof1.jpg’. Yep…no problem, I’d walk that too.


These ones I didn't...

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A couple of weeks ago I got up on a 12:12 at the limit of my 21' LG. I wanted to check the furnace flue because I suspected it was unlined, and I thought I could utilize a valley to get to the ridge. Well I got there, but getting down and off was more of a knee-knocker than I anticipated. A couple of other times I've sat on ridges pondering how stupid I'm going to look if I have to call the fire department on my cell phone, before finally working up the courage for a descent. Getting on and going up is always much easier than down and off (at least for me).

A couple of years ago I learnt that the very pleasant local HI, who gave us our hands-on Saturday inspection during my ITA course down in Oceanside, CA, fell off a ladder and subsequently died from massive head injuries. Sadly, it does happen!

Ultimately, only do what you are comfortable with, and don't get "bullied" into doing something that you, or your surviving kin, will regret later.


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Originally Posted By: ladams
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I walk the roof’s even 2 story ones. icon_redface.gif Many people can not believe that I will go on them. Most men i speak to say NO WAY! Im not going up there.


Lind Adams
MDA Group Home & Mold Inspections
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Originally Posted By: gbell
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The higher the better. I loved being at the top of Glacier Point looking down on the valley below. I walk all roofs where I am not concerned about damaging it.



Greg Bell


Bell Inspection Service

Originally Posted By: fduemig
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I walk on most roofs. I don’t walk on slate. For roofs I can’t walk I use a Celeron Vista Pic. It is a binocular with digital camera and LED screen. Takes great shots, almost as if standing on the roof.


Fred



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Originally Posted By: wwarner
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rmoore wrote:

A couple of weeks ago I got up on a 12:12 at the limit of my 21' LG. I wanted to check the furnace flue because I suspected it was unlined, and I thought I could utilize a valley to get to the ridge. Well I got there, but getting down and off was more of a knee-knocker than I anticipated. A couple of other times I've sat on ridges pondering how stupid I'm going to look if I have to call the fire department on my cell phone, before finally working up the courage for a descent. Getting on and going up is always much easier than down and off (at least for me).



I thought I was the only one... ![icon_lol.gif](upload://zEgbBCXRskkCTwEux7Bi20ZySza.gif) been there many times too. I for some reason always get shaky getting back on the ladder than stepping off.
I'll walk most of them, as long as the roof looks sturdy and safe.


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Originally Posted By: bkelly2
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The first message referenced something called winter. What is that?


I walk most roofs.


BK


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Originally Posted By: evandeven
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All, or I do not charge for a roof inspection.



Eric Van De Ven


Owner/Inspector


Magnum Inspections Inc.


I get paid to be suspicious when there is nothing to be suspicious about!


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Originally Posted By: lewens
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You guys are whack.


Anything more than 4/12 is nuts. I once came off a 1 storey roof and popped my shoulder, been there, did that got the injury and the teeshirt to prove it.


Larry


Originally Posted By: jhugenroth
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Ya gotta do what ya gotta do.


Originally Posted By: evandeven
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lewens wrote:
You guys are whack.
Anything more than 4/12 is nuts. I once came off a 1 storey roof and popped my shoulder, been there, did that got the injury and the teeshirt to prove it.
Larry


Thats part of the job!

Danger is my business! ![icon_lol.gif](upload://zEgbBCXRskkCTwEux7Bi20ZySza.gif)


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Originally Posted By: kwilliams
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You all do look in the attic first, Correct ?



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Originally Posted By: rsummers
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This is the order I go in 1) Interior 2) Attic 3) Exterior 4) Roof 5) Crawl space. If I show up 1st I will walk the exterior until I can get in the house.


Originally Posted By: mcsontos
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I walk most roofs that are less than 8/12 and are without snow, ice or frost. There is the occasional shake or shingle roof that I feel is just too far past dependable that I won’t walk for fear of damaging. Some things can not be seen from the attic - how’s that flashing and chimney look up close and personal? I have gutter guards (standoffs) for my extension ladder that protect the gutters and help stabilize the ladder. I also have my binoculars and zoom lense but I prefer to walk it if at all possible.


Originally Posted By: jedwards
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I don’t. I either do ladder at eaves, or binocs from the ground. My state’s SOP clearly states that “no walking on roofs is to be performed”, and I don’t intend to be a test case where my liability underwriter refuses to pay a claim because I violated state SOP and crashed through a rotten roof deck. The only roof I’ll walk on is my own.


Besides, (speaking for myself only) I can tell a lot more about the roof's functionality from the attic anyway. Your mileage will almost certainly vary.

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This shot was kind of hard to get because the attic was full of a bunch of junk, to the extent that my agreement disclaims limited inspection due to stored items. Might have missed it entirely on a bad day. This is an older plank-decked roof, reshingled within the last 10 years or so. An 8" square piece of decking was missing, presumably broken out during the last roofing job. You're looking at the exposed roofing paper directly under the okay-looking (from above) shingles. One well-placed step woulda gone right through.


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Originally Posted By: dkeogh
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We walk on almost any roof regardless of the pitch. We even go up in the snow if its the right kind of snow (wet). Each inspector cares a 40 ft. aluminum extension ladder a 32 and 28 ft. fiberglass 1A 300lb. ladder. We just don’t belive that the folding or telescope ladders cut it.


As a former roofing contractor I know that the roof and the condition of the roofing shingles can not be accurately determined from the ground with binoculars. That's consistent with what the NRCA says. You also can't evaluate the chimney very well.

We make a lot of money doing roof certs for FHA loans and we are often called in to re-evaluate roofs after other HI's have made the wrong call.

You should never do anything that puts you in harms way, but you also shouldn't comment on the condition of the roof if you didn't get up on it and closely look at the roofing penetrations and flashing details.

Just my four cents.


Originally Posted By: jgibbs
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I walk every one I feel is safe. For me going up is always easier than coming down.


Jim


Originally Posted By: tallen
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If I can’t get there with a 21’ ladder I aint going!


Also, no tile.

Snow?


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Originally Posted By: cradan
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dkeogh wrote:
We even go up in the snow if its the right kind of snow (wet).


Why would you consider taking the chance??? Even the "right kind of snow" may well have a solid layer of frost or ice under it. You won't know that until you're up there (or, perhaps, up there and on your way down, fast, on the express elevator).

dkeogh wrote:
You should never do anything that puts you in harms way, but you also shouldn't comment on the condition of the roof if you didn't get up on it and closely look at the roofing penetrations and flashing details.


Agreed and agreed.


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Chicago Illinois Home Inspections

Originally Posted By: ekartal
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New inspectors and board visitors.


Do not walk on the roof in the right kind of snow.

Erol Kartal