Walking a Roof ?

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Originally Posted By: mroe
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I just lost another inspection today,because the client stated that on the NACHI web site,it stated that we do not walk on the roof to inspect. Can any on shed any light on this problem? When I first talked to her,I told her that if she had any questions to please feel free to call me. I did a follow up call this morning and she hit me with this statement. And that she and her husband had went with another inspector that did. It has been suggested to me that I have a wavier for the client to sign to release me from any and all possible damages to the roof if I would indeed do a walk of the roof? Any help that I can get on this issue will greatly be appreciated.


Mark H Roe
BeSure Home Inspection Service
www.besurehomeinspectionservice.com

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Originally Posted By: gbeaumont
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Mark,


the NACHI SOP does not state that your should not walk the roof it only says that you are not required to do so.

Some roofs just should not be walked, for example where the pitch is too steep, the material may be damaged (slate comes to mind, or there are other factors involved that make it unsafe to walk the roof.

Regards

Gerry

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Gerry Beaumont
NACHI Education Committee
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NACHI phone 484-429-5466

Inspection Depot Education
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Originally Posted By: jpope
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The NACHI SOP states that the inspector is NOT REQUIRED to walk the roof. This does not prevent us from doing so.


If you told her you would not walk the roof because you were not REQUIRED to, that's your bad.

--
Jeff Pope
JPI Home Inspection Service
"At JPI, we'll help you look better"
(661) 212-0738

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Originally Posted By: mroe
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Thanks for the info. By no means did I tell her that I would not walk the roof ! She did not even ask about it when she called. I found this out when I did my follow up this morning. I checked out my web site,and no where does it state that I do not walk the roof… But on NACHI as state,we are not required to walk the roof. So maybe the clients took that as meaning we do not walk the roof? Oh well,NEXT… icon_biggrin.gif

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Originally Posted By: mgault
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I walk if it’s not too steep, wet, or comprised of materials that preclude doing so safely.


Only way to see most of it up close....

my .02

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-Mike
A to Z Home Inspections, LLC

www.atozhomeinspections.net

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Originally Posted By: pehrenpreis
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Hmmm…



From ASHI's SOP:

5.1 The inspector shall:
A. inspect:
1. the roof covering.
2. the roof drainage systems.
3. the flashings.
4. the skylights, chimneys, and roof penetrations.
B. describe the roof covering and report the methods used to inspect the roof.


5.2 The inspector is NOT required to:
A. inspect:
1. antennae.
2. interiors of flues or chimneys which are not readily accessible.
3. other installed accessories.


From our (NACHI) SOP:

2.1. Roof

I. The inspector shall inspect from ground level or eaves:

A. The roof covering.
B. The gutters.
C. The downspouts.
D. The vents, flashings, skylights, chimney and other roof penetrations.
E. The general structure of the roof from the readily accessible panels, doors or stairs.

II. The inspector is not required to:

A. Walk on any roof surface.
B. Predict the service life expectancy.
C. Inspect underground downspout diverter drainage pipes.
D. Remove snow, ice, debris or other conditions that prohibit the observation of the roof surfaces.
E. Inspect antennae, lightning arresters, or similar attachments.

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Originally Posted By: escanlan
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Quote:
Hmmm....

From ASHI's SOP:

5.1 The inspector shall:
A. inspect:
1. the roof covering.
2. the roof drainage systems.
3. the flashings.
4. the skylights, chimneys, and roof penetrations.
B. describe the roof covering and report the methods used to inspect the roof.


5.2 The inspector is NOT required to:
A. inspect:
1. antennae.
2. interiors of flues or chimneys which are not readily accessible.
3. other installed accessories.


From our (NACHI) SOP:

2.1. Roof

I. The inspector shall inspect from ground level or eaves:

A. The roof covering.
B. The gutters.
C. The downspouts.
D. The vents, flashings, skylights, chimney and other roof penetrations.
E. The general structure of the roof from the readily accessible panels, doors or stairs.

II. The inspector is not required to:

A. Walk on any roof surface.
B. Predict the service life expectancy.
C. Inspect underground downspout diverter drainage pipes.
D. Remove snow, ice, debris or other conditions that prohibit the observation of the roof surfaces.
E. Inspect antennae, lightning arresters, or similar attachments.


It is a part of the SOP that could use review and rewording. I do see how a potential client could interpret it as we do not walk on roofs. A rewording, if nothing else, would help prevent this type event in the future.

--
Manny (Emmanuel) Scanlan

Knowledge is power, but sharing knowledge brings peace!
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Originally Posted By: phinsperger
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curesy of Stuart Spradling ]

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Paul Hinsperger
Hinsperger Inspection Services
Chairman - NACHI Awards Committee
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here !

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Originally Posted By: Jay Moge
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if a black lab can do it so can i.


Mark, sorry if the misunderstanding cost you an inspection, but i think it’s supposed to cover our butts from doing an unsafe inspection. i too will walk a roof on a cape or ranche style home, but the client would have to be crazy to ask my to walk one more the 1.5 stories, slate, too steep, or unsafe in anyway. i’d rather loose the client than breake something i’m going to use later. icon_cool.gif

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Originally Posted By: loconnor
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That dog is a north American Roof Hound. Very rare in this country. Not to be confused with wolf hounds icon_wink.gif icon_wink.gif icon_wink.gif


Jeff

What does "that's your bad" mean? I was reading a book the other day, where a gang member from the ghetto used that saying?
I've always been curious why people who appear to be well articulated in their speech and writing decide to revert to these type words, in the middle of a statement or sentence. Just curious.

I've seen professional writers from national magazines do the same thing. I have a hard time, as it is, just trying to articulate regular english.


Perhaps I should be more with today's language.

--
Larry
Western Michigan NACHI Chapter
http://www.w-michigan-nachi.org

"We confide in our strength
without boasting of it.
We respect that of others
without fearing it"
Thomas Jefferson

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Originally Posted By: Jay Moge
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“my bad”= my fault, or my mistake. as in; “sorry i stepped into you, my bad”


“my bag”= my think, what i like to do, what i’m good at. etc. as in; “hey i’d love to do that, that’s my bag”


“my crib”= my house, my flat, or where i live. as in; “let’s go back to my crib for a beer”


“my dog”= my friend, good buddy etc. as in; “hay there’s Johnny, he’s my dog”


hope that helped. my 10yr old daughter talks like that with her friends and just laugh. ![icon_cool.gif](upload://oPnLkqdJc33Dyf2uA3TQwRkfhwd.gif)

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Originally Posted By: loconnor
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Jay


Outstanding! Thank you for the definitions,

--
Larry
Western Michigan NACHI Chapter
http://www.w-michigan-nachi.org

"We confide in our strength
without boasting of it.
We respect that of others
without fearing it"
Thomas Jefferson

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Originally Posted By: jwilliams4
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F’r shizzle!!!

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“not just an inspection, but an education”

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Originally Posted By: Jay Moge
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ain’t no thang but a chicken wang on a strang. icon_cool.gif

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Originally Posted By: gporter
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Cute Jay.

–
Gary Porter


GLP’s Home and Mold Inspections LLC


Orlando, Fl 32828


321-239-0621


www.homeandmoldinspections.com

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Originally Posted By: evandeven
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Quote:
5.1 The inspector shall:
A. inspect:
1. the roof covering.


This is the problem area. Perhaps you could change the sop to read: The inspector will inspect the roof covering when the inspector feels it is safe to do so. In the event that the roof covering cannot be inspected due to safety concerns, a licensed roofing contractor should be called to perform a proper roof inspection including all of the roof components.

--
Eric Van De Ven
Owner/Inspector
Magnum Inspections Inc.
I get paid to be suspicious when there is nothing to be suspicious about!
www.magnuminspections.com
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Originally Posted By: mcyr
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Jay; Your jokes keep rattling my tee cup off the saucer.

My dictionary does not show those definitions.

Take care.

Marcel

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Originally Posted By: ekartal3
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No SOP anywhere requires walking a roof. It’s unlucky to find a customer who requires it.


Erol Kartal

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Originally Posted By: tallen
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I walk most roofs unless, they are 6 on 12 or worse, or they have wet shingles or they are tile.


Flat roofs are done no matter what.

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I have put the past behind me,
where , however, it now sits, making rude remarks.

www.whiteglovehomeinspections.net

30 Oct 2003-- 29 Nov2005

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Originally Posted By: jpope
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loconnor wrote:
I've always been curious why people who appear to be well articulated in their speech and writing decide to revert to these type words, in the middle of a statement or sentence. Just curious.


![icon_biggrin.gif](upload://iKNGSw3qcRIEmXySa8gItY6Gczg.gif)

I have two teenage daughters and a 12 year old son. Sometimes those things just slip out. . .

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Jeff Pope
JPI Home Inspection Service
"At JPI, we'll help you look better"
(661) 212-0738