First I’ll address the legalities.
If, during your inspection of my property, you caused damage by exceeding the design limitations of a system, I would hold you responsible. I suspect you would be hesitant on repairing the damage done due to your negligence and we would not be able to reach a satisfactory accord.
At that point I would sue you and I am quite confident the judge would rule in my favor, especially with your “shower pan terrorist” penchant.
As for the rest of your drivel, I shall say, I don’t shake in my shoes.
You have no clue what design limitations are but I am glad we have a home inspector Attorney among our org. I am quite confident that I would not hire you to inspect a dog house. You kinda remind me of Harry Reid. I could look in both of you guys eyes and tell there is no one home. I truly hope you can find some clients that want a minimum inspection what do you charge $125.00
HARRY REID! Them’s fightin words pilgrim, stack your duds and grease your skids.
Get real.
Nobody tests shower pans during a home inspection unless you’re sucking up to seal the deal.
Think about it.
Don’t be a slurper or a nad licker!!!
Are you drinking again I thought you was off the bottle;-)
So… wondering how the toilet terrorist performs that test…
:shock:
after burrito night
Some of us know how to use a IR camera and please lets use the proper terms. The word Toilet is for amateurs Real home inspectors use the word Commode. Unless of course your one of Harry Reids boys.
I use one to two inches of standing water in the stall and let it stand for at least 1/2 hour. I use the IR camera to detect a temp difference in the tiled floor depending on if I use hot water or cold water in the shower. I also use IR if the floor next to the stall is covered with carpet then I also use a moisture meter with a digital pic of the meter reading. One has to be careful on carpet floor covering a slab floor because the wood tack board can draw enough moisture thru the concrete to register high on the meter. It helps to have a little experience;-)
I think no is a better answer. Tubs are made to hold water, not showers. Most people don’t want to stand in their filth they just washed off, let alone sometimes other bodily fluids :-&
I prefer, and I think most do to, to have a shower as fast and free draining as possible. The second it starts to slow up or have standing water, most reach for a bottle of drain-o or call a plumber.
I do. I just turn on the dishwasher like a homeowner would. Normal operation controls…easy peasy. Of course, I suppose one could fill up/flood the dishwasher to see if the door seal holds water and look like a home inspection superstar in front of everyone present .
Charles, how do you fill the shower pan with water?
What method?
The only problem I had testing shower pans, is when I didn’t and should have.
Your there to test stuff guys…
The buyer can run the shower, what do they need to spend $195 on you for?
So, how EXACTLY do you test shower pans… or don’t you (at all)?
Do you get in the shower when testing so your weight opens the hairline cracks that may only leak when a person is standing in the shower?
Yea, didn’t think so.
Shower pan leaks are pretty obvious either from the floor below or the crawl space if not SOG. Shower pan leaks on SOG will manifest itself in the finish floor or walls. This applies to fiberglass pans or concrete/tile pans.
“Pans” here is the operative word. It is not a vessel nor a tub. It facilitates proper drainage, that’s it.
Well Mr authority on shower pans I live in a world of slab foundations and shower pan leaks beneath a tiled bathroom floor and beneath the wall plates are not so easy as a raised foundation or a upstairs bathroom. Even idiots like Harry Reid could see water dripping from a ceiling or into the crawl space. A blind pig will find an acorn occasionally 
e&o doesn’t care…no error or no omission to file a claim
gl may
my experience is the home owner’s insurer & repair firm get called
i use a drain tester & find & have found numerous failed-leaking 1st, 2nd & 3rd floor shower pans, tub overflows, dishwashers, hydro-tubs, disconnected tprv, secondary condensate, drain piping etc.etc.etc
never had an owner, builder or agent hold me financially responsible for their defective component-listing
many blow a lot of hot air, none follow up because they have no case
i also don’t pander to agents so have no need to play nice with the irrational types & after the 1st call any & all further communication is via email for my records and most folk aren’t willing to put in writing what they’re willing to say over the phone
just the way i roll
the water from weeps is a perfect example of failed plumbing in new construction…thus why Phase Inspections should be performed on every property
http://www.adairinspection.com/xsites/Inspectors/adairinspection/content/uploadedFiles/weepleak.JPG
e&o doesn’t care…no error or no omission to file a claim
gl may
my experience is the home owner’s insurer & repair firm get called
i routinely use a drain tester & find & have found numerous failed-leaking 1st, 2nd & 3rd floor shower pans, tub overflows, dishwashers, hydro-tubs, disconnected tprv, secondary condensate, drain piping etc.etc.etc
never had an owner, builder or agent hold me financially responsible for their defective component-listing
many blow a lot of hot air, none follow up because they have no case
i also don’t pander to agents so have no need to play nice with the irrational types & after the 1st call any & all further communication is via email for my records and most folk aren’t willing to put in writing what they’re willing to say over the phone
just the way i roll
the water from the weep holes is a perfect example of failed plumbing & clogged weeps in new construction…another reason why Phase Inspections should be performed on every property
http://www.adairinspection.com/xsites/Inspectors/adairinspection/content/uploadedFiles/weepleak.JPG
e&o doesn’t care…no error or omission claim
gl isn’t a payday for the irrational
my experience is the home owner’s insurer & repair firm get called
i routinely use a drain tester & find & have found numerous failed-leaking 1st, 2nd & 3rd floor shower pans, tub overflows, dishwashers, hydro-tubs, disconnected tprv, secondary condensate, drain piping etc.etc.etc
never had an owner, builder or agent hold me financially responsible for their defective component-listing
many blow a lot of hot air, none follow up because they have no case
i also don’t pander to agents so have no need to play nice with the irrational types & after the 1st call any & all further communication is via email for my records and most folk aren’t willing to put in writing what they’re willing to say over the phone
just the way i roll
the water exiting the interior from the weep holes is a perfect example of failed plumbing & clogged weeps in new construction…another reason why Phase Inspections should be performed on every property
Good one BA this newbie shower pan authority has been a HI all of 30 minutes but he already knows every thing. ;-):roll:
shower pan terrorist…reminds me of the “wet bandits” on Home Alone.