Just got my new TIR1

And I am trying it out at some friend’s houses. I was in one guys kitchen that had dark Maroon paint on the walls and it was reasonably light with natural light and I was taking a fusion shot of the pine ceilings. I was using the blue red template and It was odd- in one half of the kitchen the fusion shot showed ceiling correctly looked orange with a average temp of 61.1F and in another part of the kitchen the inner image looked all dark blue (yet it differentiated the smoke detector) with an average temp of 62.0. I tried to adjust the focus, but to no avail. The funny thing was that it only happened in this part of the guys house- in all other areas, the fusion colors were correct- except in the kitchen.

Can any pros give me any idea what was going on? I tried the camera on quite a few friend’s homes yesterday, and it only happened at this guy’s house.

Rick

Got any pictures??

I am guessing you are using auto span. Try manual. It will calibrate less as well.

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Rick there is probably nothing incorrect, what was the span of the temperature scale(lowest temp to higher temp). The second shot was likely showing cooler (blue) because there was a warmer temperature in the shot somewhere. If you have the images you could post it would help us in figuring it out for you. I highly recommend you take the training for the camera as there are many variables that can effect your images and you need to understand them and adjust for them when scanning. There is alot more to understanding how these cameras function then many people realize. Cheers and I hope I could help.

Can someone tell me how I can upload pictures? I am clicking on the the attachment button at the top of this respond window and it is asking me for the internet link for my pictures which are on my desktop. It also tells me that the attachment button is “above” – I cannot find it anywhere. If I could figure out how to upload the pics, I would.

Rick

When you click on post reply, you need to scroll down until you see manage attachments. Click on this and you can choose the files you want to post.

Mark

The whole blue kitchen was really weird. As long as I was in the kitchen, everything I looked at had the blue hue. If I moved outside of the kitchen by a foot, the normal colors came out. The rest of the house was fine, and I was in a lot darker environments, but nowhere did I have the blue screen like in the kitchen.

Thanks for any ideas.

Rick

Blue Roof Shot.jpg

Blue Roof Shot.jpg

Just a Few feet to the Right of Blue Shot.jpg

Blue Roof Shot.jpg

Just a Few feet to the Right of Blue Shot.jpg

Another Blue Shot in Kitchen.jpg

Rick, it is the auto span doing that to you. Notice how you have one hot item in the picture? It is adjusting for that light. If you get the light out of the image it will return to normal.

I highly recommend training with your new camera. Go for full Level I then eventually II through either Snell, Infraspection or FLIR ICT.

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The issue is the heat source you are getting in the first and third pictures - the red dot. It is changing the a scale of the palette to allow it to register the high temp and the lower ceiling temps. You should be able to do some adjustment in the software to improve this at least a little.

It is exactly what I mentioned you have a source with a higher temp in the image making your ceiling the bottom of the temperature scale. I have a Fluke and I only scan in full IR as I believe I see the true Thermal Picture of the room that way. I then place the picture in Fusion format in the report for the client to help them better visualize what I am explaining.I highly recommend formal training in IR whether it be Level 1 or Building Science to help you better understand the science of how these cameras work and how to properly interpret and manipulate your images. It may save your butt one day. Cheers!

Hey guys thanks for the heads up. I took an online level one training course, and now I am just trying to get used to the way the camera works. Although I learned a lot in that course, nothing takes the place of being in the field with the actual equipment in your hands. Theory is one thing, experience is another, and I am more of a hands on kind of guy.

Speaking of hands, I may have to visit the gym for a while to get my forearms into shape. It doesn’t take long before the pain starts setting in. Any hints (other than doing curls in the gym) as to how to hold the camera so your arms aren’t in pain? I am in pretty good shape and I have this pain thing going on with my forearms right now.

Thanks Again

Rick

Never noticed any pain from carrying the unit around. I rigged the carry strap for the case to the camera so that I can have it around my neck when not actively using it.

Sign up for some more training, but more importantly use the unit in as many situations as you can and start learning from the practical experience. One thing to be careful of when using it for clients. Don’t be vocal about things. You will sometimes find anomalies that aren’t problems. If you let out a ‘oh crap’ or ‘oh wow that’s bad’ or something before verifying, you could cause yourself problems. Also do some scanning in the home before “showing” it to the client. So that you know exactly what it is that you are going to see in the field of view you pick for an example.

And when in doubt, don’t hesitate to ask for help. There are no dumb questions. Fee free to ask here or in private via email if you need to. I know many on here will try and help.

Good post Kevin!!

First evidence of greater equipment weight?

I believe so David!!

The TiR1 is noticeably heavier than the comparable FLIR. Seemed much more beefy and sturdy to me when I compared the two. But not enough that I think it would be a major issue.

Good excuse to step up the workout routine I guess!

Rick -

Kevin is right. The Fluke is a camera built for a He-Man type of inspector.

There are other brands of cameras that work well for the punier guys.

Its just a personal decision as to which is right for you.

Good Luck

I actually liked the Flir designed like a flashlight. I liked the fact that rather than holding it up and out to see something, you could actually hold it at your waist and aim it up. But upon comparing features, it seemed to me that the Fluke had quite a bit more features for the money. That is, of course if you don’t include the fees from the local gym to build up my forearm strength-- which is a plus for me-- since when I am not working, I spend my spare time at one of my 4 placer gold mines beating myself up other ways. Getting strong is good for me in many ways, so I’ll just buck up and work out a little longer at the gym. I am a big fan that the way the economy is going, my gold mines will be a gold mine.

Thanks for the advice, guys.