I have personally been approached by an Illinois real estate salesman and asked to do an inspection for his client. When I explained to him that I was not licensed, he told me that was “no problem” because he had a licensed inspector who would “sign off” on my report. I declined, so I do not know what the “signing off” procedure entails, but it was spoken to me as casually and open as if it was a rather common thing - at least for this particular salesman.
I once had government loan agency call me and ask me about an reinspection I did. When I explained to them I did not reinspect the property and if you could plese compare my signature, they said OOH!. I suspect either the realtor or the lender got their hide nailed to the wall.
Jim I was just looking at your earlier posting and realising that you are not living in reality when you say Illinois realtors are ignoring the law. How is it so hard to believe that realtors will circumvent laws that interfer with their ability to land a commission?
Which E&O company is insuring unlicensed inspectors? Umm, they probably do not carry E&O, just as many licensed inspectors do.
Since the law states you must be licensed what agent would be foolish enough to refer one that is not. One who is foolish enough to want a soft inspection that does not even meet Illinois’ basement-low SOP. One who wants to enslave this inspector with the threat of turning him in.
Are you saying agents feel an unlicensed inspector is so great he is worth them risking their careers by recommending him? Perhaps they use “The List” scam, which does not technically involve a referral. In that case, they can protect themselves with that BS line “Oh we gave the clients a choice and they picked him. We were unaware that he was not licensed. In fact, he misrepresented himself!”
Just does not add up,and must be a fantasy. So does the idea that circumventing law is a non-existent practice in the used house sales industry.
Prove it as a conspiracy Mr Mallory oppps I mean Mr Bushart. To make things fair, you should prove your assertions as well.
If a tradesman is unlicensed and I am licensed I trump him (rook to queens 4 If a tradesman is in an unlicensed profession, how can that be held against him? If he is bucking the licensing law, then yes you are correct. But do you honestly believe that all used house salesmen value us based upon our integrity, competence and compliance with regulation that is supposedly summarized with a state-issued card?
Heck, several used house salesmen up here have complained about me reporting things “that I should not be inspecting” like the lack of functional supply line plumbing supports (because the pipes did not move when the fixtures were operated), roofing tar used in place of proper wall-to-roof flashings (because they were not leaking) and the improper bonding of the neutral and ground buses in a sub panel (I installed my own garage panel using my old basement service panel 30 years ago and nobody has been hurt by it!). If I did not report items like these I would be in violation of my own state’s joke of an SOP. Up here, many neither care about the law nor do they want it abbided to when it affects their commission.:twisted:
Licensing solves nothing.
If it becomes law in Ga, I wonder if it will be like drivers licenses, I took my grandaughter to get hers, and she was refused because she did not take a birth certificate. An illegal alien,(not immigrant) can get one without any proof. I bet foreigners will be able to get a license with no requirements, and the government will pay for it.
Are you known that well for producing Realtor friendly reports?
You should publish the name of the Illinois agent that wanted you to break the law.
Sorry this sounds like more of your fantasy hype.
Frankly, I don’t really care what it sounds like to you…whoever you are.
I have been challenged, before, to publish the name of the agent and have refused. I see no need to do so, now.
The agent was a friend of my client. My client was a son of a friend of mine. I am not going to bring any harm to an acquaintance for circumventing a ridiculous law. Licensing solves nothing and, while I would not encourage any NACHI member to disobey a law, I admit that I am pleased at seeing that it is being resisted. Hopefully, in a matter of time, it will be repealed.
Jim, for what it’s worth there is no licensing of contractors in NH.
Huge problem!!!
P Diddy! You’re back. How’s it going?
John,
It’s going good. Had to get re-acclimated to the east coast but we are pretty settled in now.
Jim, hate to say it, but you are wrong about licensing the trades. Not all states license them, but many do. Michigan doesn’t license HI’s, but they sure do license the skilled trdes and the builders. Hasn’t done a lot to get rid of sleezebags in the builder’s ranks, but it sure has helped with the skilled trades.
The poll is telling a different story. Oh oh. Fact vs. Fiction.
On any future polls, how many Nachi inspectors are in each state needs to be considered. IMO Also, these polls should be in the members only section so other orgs that promote licensing cannot skew the results. IMOA
Licensing…LOVE IT…LOVE IT…LOVE IT…don’t ask me why…I dont care why…I LOVE IT…LOVE IT…LOVE IT…now RED BOX that statement;)
Licensing - Love…8/29/07 9:42 PM okay lol…hey WANNA BE…thanks for the negative post…ever heard the term EAT ME…
Looks like polls are more than for dogs to pee on. So much for the pleadings that licencing sucks, and it should be shunned.
I don’t know what poll you are reading, but this one shows clearly that those in unlicensed states do not want it. The Stockholm Syndrome would probably best explain why so many in licensed states favor it, other than the fact that most or all of them came on board after it was implemented and have no reference point.
Licensing, as has been proven in the only actual government study of it, solves nothing.
Holly crap, you are right, I have been reading the wrong poll. Okay polls are for dogs to pee on!
Six (6) counties in Kansas have mandatory code inspections out of over 100.
Three (3) counties in Kansas have mandatory licensing of builders, remodelers, contractors, etc. Not an occupational license - but a real take a test type of license.
Architects, engineers, home builders, contractors, real estate agents, etc, etc are NOT required to have E & O Insurance to get licensed.
A home builder, contractor, remodeler in the 3 counties with licensing are required to take a 80 question open book code test (4 hours to take it) AND show proof of $1,000,000 general liability insurance (mine as a HI costs $460 per year) to get their license. They are NOT required to show proof of ever having built or remodeled a house, etc. They are **NOT **required to show **ANY **type of schooling or training in their chosen occupation, etc.
They are **NOT **required to have FBI, CIA or KGB background checks AND there is NO question on their application asking for a SS#, DOB or DL#; if they’ve ever been involved in drive-by shootings; political assinations; mob, gang or drug related crimes, or if they are sex preverts, etc.
They did have 1 question asking if they had ever had the same type of license revoked or suspended elsewhere.
They were required to have 8 hrs of CE annually.
I can live with that type of licensing for us.
I can not vote so niether can anyone else who might not be a member…:mrgreen: