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Ledger nailed to wall studs through 1" fire rated gypsum board (shared wall of townhouse) using 12d nails. Builder says nails and ledger are sufficient and the hurricane straps will do the job of joist hangers. …

Hurricane straps prevent uplift. Joist hangers support the weight of the truss or joist in its cradle. Those are opposite functions. Not at all the same loading.

Does the builder have plans available to show how the trusses should be supported?
This is beyond SOP but still its good to investigate just for knowledge.

IV. The inspector is not required to:

1. enter any crawlspace that is not readily accessible, or where entry could cause damage or pose a hazard to the inspector.
2. move stored items or debris.
3. operate sump pumps with inaccessible floats.
4. identify the size, spacing, span or location or determine the adequacy of foundation bolting, bracing, joists, joist spans or support systems.
5. provide any engineering or architectural service.
6. report on the adequacy of any structural system or component.


OMG. Surely he’s joking


Ledger is nailed over the drywall?

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it doesn’t look right to me, but I would defer to the plans or an SE.
I would expect that ledger to be attached better. And the trusses don’t appear to fit right either.


That’s almost exactly what I told him. Had to hold back the laughing though. It was tough.

Actually, I was told to pack sand when I asked him that very question.


Yes, 1" thick drywall at that. Even a 16d nail would have only a 1/2" of penetration of the stud on the other side of the drywall. But the builder says it is fine, so… It must be…:roll_eyes:


I called out the whole set up. I did my part, now it’s between the client and the builder.
Sometimes new builds are sooo much fun.

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The past couple years most of my growth has been new builds and 11th month warranty inspections and even some phase inspections. There is so much new construction in TN right now with all the people migrating here from places that are not as awesome. Despite this trend, my reports are getting longer and longer. So much shoddy construction, short-cuts, everything being subcontracted to the cheapest untrained companies.
Just this past week I had two warranty inspections that the people had lived in less than 2 months. They wish they had me come before closing to catch so many problems, but they couldn’t wait for the 11th month because they had already found enough stuff themselves to know that they needed a professional inspector.

Here is my inspection yesterday. A $multi-million home on the golf course just a week after closing with over 50 issues.


Nice gloves!!! Is Clb Rd a typo?

New builds and warranty inspections are pretty much all I do. Kinda get spoiled with them, but I know what you mean about shotty work, it’s the same here. Funny thing is I can almost make a template for each builder with canned comments because it’s always the same stuff that’s written up. LOL. Actually I think it makes for a quicker time on location knowing that issues are going to be in specific locations. You don’t have to search for them. For example, in a neighborhood near me, nearly every home has exposed house wrap between the front door threshold and the concrete porch. No metal flashing, or other material, just house wrap and OSB sheathing. I called out enough sediment trap issues in one subdivision that some big wig representative from the builder reached out to me directly and after our conversation, they are going to every single home to check for them and install traps that are missing and repair the ones that were installed incorrectly . Even the older homes that are 5 years old now. :laughing:

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I know what you mean. I’ve done about 50 DR Horton houses in the past year and several defects are present in every single one of them. I should make some shortcuts in my template :rofl:

(that address is the abbreviation that Google maps automatically kicks out. Spectora did the same.

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Morning, Michael.
Question: What were the wall stud dimensions? If memory serves me correctly, 2" x 6" inch is the minimum dimensions for securing a structural ceiling ledger.

Here is what I get from Mitek. Attaching a Ledger to Studs.

IMO, the builder utilized the wrong type of fasteners. The 1’ drywall does not matter.

As for load bearing. When a ceiling joist is supported directly by the top wall plate, wood, the minimum bearing size required is a 1-1/2 inches . That does not change.

That’s for sure… :+1:


I would certainly be calling that out. The builder is full of you no what.


Looks like the ledger is above the drywall. As far as truss install, it depends on what the specs call for from the manufacturer. Personally I would have referred it to the builder and local building official for clarification.

My calculation
1" drywall + 1.5" lumber = 2.5"
12d nail = 3.25"
result is .75 nail depth

Is this acceptable? I have no idea :smile: An engineer needs to sharpen his pencil.

Robert is on to something

Where does one find this? I have never seen any larger than 5/8 or is it multiple layers?

Yes, multiple layers…

Nor do I at the moment.

On to something. I am wrangling information on the internet for members to mull over.

2 x 5/8th drywall or 1" Drywall is apparently fine…
From what the OP posted, “Fasteners are unacceptable.” Required, screws or lags in a proper strength, length and fastened in the proper pattern.

From JLC The Journal to Light Constriction; . Attaching a Ledger to Studs

Thanks Larry, still working on my first cup of Java :coffee:

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