Painted TPR valves

Hello everybody,

Recently during several new build inspections, I’ve been noticing the TPR valves on outdoor tankless water heaters are painted. I haven’t seen much literature on this, but from what little information I have seen online, it sounds like it is not recommended. Although the standards of water heater TPR installations do not appear to cover this. Here’s an example from today’s inspection. I don’t believe this would pose any concern, but maybe if the whole valve was painted, it could seize up some of the internal mechanisms and prevent the valve from opening? I’d be very interested to hear everybody’s thoughts on this.

Thanks in advance!

Paint on the piping and valve body wouldn’t concern me. But my question is, if this is an outdoor unit, why does it look like the piping comes out and then goes back into the wall? Have any better pics?

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Everything this guy said.

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Do you understand how the internal mechanism operates?

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Not worried about the paint. Ugly, but whatever.
However I’ve seen the TPR stem rust in Solar hot water applications: rendering the TPR inoperative or making it stick on operation. These things don’t seem to be outdoor rated.

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Not sure why they run the piping directly into the wall, however it comes back out to discharge closer to the grade.

NO idea why any plumber would do that. How do you know it’s the same pipe?

That’s for a pressure assisted warm water bidet!

:rofl:

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First here are you located as your State SOP (if you have one) might cover something like this in general terms. I’ve found at least 2 - 3 Aaron Peterson Inspectors on a basic search. BTW if you are in Texas (one location) TREC does require you add your license number on your posts.

Next I write up every valve I encounter that has been painted and/or textured on. On new builds I advise to have the Builder clean and test the valve to ensure no damage has occurred. See so many PRV’s this way. You can not tell if the paint or texture has affected them and won’t until they are manually manipulated or fail.

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It appears they took the care not to get paint on the label or moving parts. It’s a non issue for me in this instance.

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IMO the paint is not a problem as the mechanism is controlled internally to open in the event of an overpressure or temperature event.

But routing the plumbing outside through a wall, then back inside, then back outside, makes me wonder wtf were they thinking.

I was looking at this more and now I think it makes slightly more sense. I bet the tankless unit is in the upper right, just out of frame of the picture. The red arrow is the main hot water supply to the building.

Then the TPR drain pipe (green arrow) goes into the wall where I wouldn’t doubt if it connects (improperly) into a condensate drain that comes to the outdoors. But maybe it just goes down and back out on its own. Either way, waste of effort.

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I totally agree. Not to mention that more holes in a wall is never a good thing.

@bcawhern1 : consider this is outside, and the valve is likely only indoor rated. The paint I agree with as a non-issue and stupidly common in sale preparation. They do so much damage to houses with paint prior to sale…

In case anybody is curious, I managed to get a response from the manufacturer of these TPR valves, here’s what they had to say on the manner:

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You understand they needed to CYA to stay out of a potential lawsuit, right?!

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