Originally Posted By: Bob Badger This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
kmcmahon wrote:
So they do this because it's mandatory to hook up the photo eyes to get the unit to work?
There has got to be a reason they don't want the photo eyes near the ground...but I couldn't imagine what it is?
Yes to the first and because it is slightly easer and faster to 'install' them at the unit.
Some of the installers get paid by the job and are less than professional. 
Originally Posted By: Blaine Wiley This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
I find it is usually because the homeowner installed the opener and couldn’t figure out how to align the eye, or just didn’t think they were necessary!!
Originally Posted By: Ryan Jackson This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Mike Parks wrote:
This might shock you but I have shown people how to do this. 
Wow Mike...thats very noble. Any other neat tricks that you show people?
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I would never do it myself.
Oh, well that makes it OK then. I've never killed anybody, but I've taught mentally retarded people how to use PCP and fire fully automatic weopons, but hey....I didn't pull the trigger, right?
Mike you make me sick. What little respect I had for you is gone. You should have your license revoked for bull s#!t like this.
I wanted to say so much more here, but I am speechless due to your stupidity.
Originally Posted By: James D Mosier This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Ryan, Calm down!
Garage door eyes are proof that lawyers are interfering with natural selection. Survival of the fittest.
Example:
Owls can see for miles these days because all the owls with poor eyesite didn't eat as good over the centuries as did the ones with good eyesite, therefore having worse health and less baby owls (with bad eyesite). Eventually the blind owls all died off leaving only the ones with good eyesite and their offspring.
Had there been lawyers protecting the blind owls their numbers would be greater but the species as a whole would be less capable than it it today.
I personally hate any device designed to save a dummy from himself.
Originally Posted By: dfrend This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
I won’t comment on Ryan’s comments, but James, I have to agree with him. Codes are adopted for reasons. The reasons those photo cells are around is because too many kids died. Those kids were not all morons, they just did not know any better. Taking the easy way out is is simply being LAZY. The person that did this could well be criminally prosecuted if anyone were to be injured as a result. As well as the person that taught them how.
Around this county, Fire Sprinklers are required by code in EVERY new home. Lot's of people are critics of sprinklers, saying they cause water damage more than anything(a myth). So is it excuseable for a builder to show someone how to make a "dummy" sprinkler system to save them from water damage?
I think Ryan is right. Installations like that are inexcusable and unbecoming of a licensed professional.
Originally Posted By: James D Mosier This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Daniel,
Of course you're right. The garage door opener is probaly a poor example of the point I was making. Just don't get me started about "unintended acceleration" which has been proven to be caused by "pedal mis-application" If someone can't properly use the pedals in their car we should make it harder for them to drive (like take their license/insurance) not easier.
Originally Posted By: jfarsetta This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
I actually believe the auto-impact reversing feature is more of a potential lifesaver than the electric eyes, especially when you see an installation like this one.
BTW... I dont check its resistance with a block of wood, either... I know, I know, its the only approved methodology. But, I ruin less garage doors and openers this way. Besides, a block of wood cant tell you how much pressure is being exerted.
-- Joe Farsetta
Illigitimi Non Carborundum
"Dont let the bastards grind you down..."