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Roy, Have you ever been sanctioned by the ESOP?
Yes or no?
I personally feel the DEPARTMENT OF BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONAL REGULATION need to take action and investigate the Major Real Estate Companies and the inspectors that are paying to be put on the list.
My point is this is only going to lead to insider issues between the real estate companies and the inspectors regardless whether they are a NACHI member or not.
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I went in to Coldwell Banker to drop of some cards; the lady at the desk gave me a phone number and said I can not put your card out unless you call our concierge program.
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I then call Sam Jernagen 850-429-8400. Sam said they had six inspectors already didn’t need any more at this time. Can you say monopoly!
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So not only do have to pay but the realty company is keeping six inspectors in the circle just for Coldwell Banker…
DEPARTMENT OF BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONAL REGULATION are there to protect the public…
DBPR could stop this so that any inspector does not have the opportunity to get involved in this practice…
I have been approached about joining a lead generating system with multiple service providers, including a mortgage broker, insurance agent, & real estate broker.
The monthly fees would be used to pay for websites, domains, marketing, and the staff that maintains the web presence that creates the leads.
Of course, the other players would be obligated to refer me as I would be obligated to refer them.
You are NOT going to solve or serve any purpose here on the site. I suggest you contact R. Morrison or K. Lawson direct for an official response.
Roy Cooke was disciplined by NACHI for refusing to accept sanctioning for a message board rule violation that had nothing to do with his ethical behavior or integrity. The sanctioning was later overturned by Nick.
Roy Cooke has never been accused or found guilty of any behavior as a member that would reflect upon his character, integrity or morals. He has extended himself above and beyond what many of us have to assist others who belong to this association and I am proud to call him a friend.
The constant disparagement of one or two people who have chosen to stalk him and harass him on the message board supports Roy’s justified criticisms.
This is the last “off topic” post I will make in this regard on this thread.
Bye the way, all this moral outrage and let’s throw out the players involved, is disingenuous. (B. S.)
A couple of months back we had documented evidence of NACHI inspectors paying outright kickbacks to insurance agents for wind mitigation referrals.
The ethics committee and some of the Inspectors commenting on this same post did absolutely nothing. They blew it off.
The excuse was, “It’s not a home inspection.”
A guess it’s a slippery slope.
All the outrage is a joke!
There is nothing in the COE that forbids paying money for kickbacks to anyone (other than a used house salesman) as long as it is disclosed.
As for these goofy things you Florida guys do for insurance companies that has nothing to do with home inspections … it is also not covered by the COE. You can be as sleazy as you wish. It doesn’t reflect on NACHI since NACHI has nothing to do with it. Financial arrangements with used house salesmen that limit choices to unsuspecting consumers in selecting qualified home inspectors for unbiased inspections, however, does reflect poorly on NACHI when it is a NACHI member who appears on the “list of shame”.
The ethics committee is not allowed to enforce rules that do not exist just because something pisses you off.
Thank you for making my point…NACHI ethics is lot of STUFF.
Hey, go pay the real estate salesman for their Wind Mit referrals…Knowing every home needs one…But, hey, I’m not paying for the Home Inspection???
You’re welcome.
Check back …I edited my response!
You are still welcome. 
You guys can do whatever you like with your wind mits and other contractor stuff. It has nothing to do with our standard of practice and code of ethics. This is a local concern and you all will have to deal with it locally. Kill, cheat, steal from each other for $75 … who really cares?
Home inspections, however, are different.
Thank you James
You’re welcome … again.
It is unfortunate that ethical violations are pidgenholed to meet the needs of a few. It is unethical for home inspectors to pay for refferals. Period. Unfortunate that some refuse to see the logic in it. It would not be unethical to offer a discount to those customers refferred by others on the basis of the refferral.
Paying any outside agency or individual to refer your’e services is unethical because the payment circumvents the normal free market enterprise and creates a revenue stream which is not performance or quality based.
This potentially creates the perception of collusion and a conflict of interest betwen the parties involved.
There is no methodology for these payments that excludes the parties from this perception. Paying a third party for advertising in a brochure that the brokerage does not pay for is a slick method for the brokers to reap a benefit that should also be deemed improper and unethical.
Thanks for your opinion.
The purpose is to find out how many real estate companies are offering this…
I suggest if any inspectors know of a Real estate company is offering this service forward
Name of Company
Phone number
Location
My email is dbryant@1stassuredinspections.com
In the next couple of weeks after collect the information I will then forward it to Rick Morrison at the DBPR so they can investigated this issue.
I won’t be posting any more about this topic on this thread, but it is interesting to me to hear other inspectors think about their side of the story.
Thank you for your post… very well put
I agree with you, but Nick and Joe disagree with us — thus, it is what it is.
It is not, as stated earlier, a selective application of the rules. The fact is … outside of ethical conduct regarding home inspections, there are no rules. This is not the* International Association of Certified Florida Wind Mitigation Inspectors* or there probably would be.
As it stands … a Florida mold inspector can mitigate his own findings … as can a radon inspector or termite inspector. Only the home inspector is ethically bound to refrain from repairing the defects he reports on. I think that is wrong and should apply to all members performing all services, but I am reminded each time I bring it up that we are an association of “home inspectors” and that is what our SOP and ethical standards address.
These lists of whores published by real estate salesman does fall under the code and the hookers on the list who belong to NACHI can be expelled, when identified.
WOW is all I have to say. I received my education from Nachi, but I will have to get my ethics somewhere else. To say Wind Mit inspections is not a home inspection service is ridiculous. You can not perform a wind mit unless licensed. To do so is a misdemeanor in the first degree. Any person who is found to be in violation of any provision of this section commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083. And for Nachi not to take a stand on this matter and let it turn into the wild west, will eventually make this organization look bad. This kind of stuff runs wild throughout the Realtor community, trust me, I am one. Former 2004 President of a local Realtor association.
Hang in there, no reason regardless of responses to bow out especially since this is an important issue. I want you to hang with it.
Well put, even before the licensing went into effect INACHI, FABI, and ASHI had agreements allowing members to use forms they developed to be acceptable to Citizens insurance Co.
Do you think Citizens accepted those forms based upon no reliance that the individuals authorized through association with Inachi were to be held accountable to a coe and sop? I think not. I can tell you as a member of FABI I have broached this question in public at FABI seminars and the ethics committee at that organization considers the SOP and COE applicable to insurance inspections.