Originally Posted By: gbeaumont This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Hi Jon, I am not sure that it is actually a code violation, maybe one of our electrical “yodas” can give us the definative answer, but obviously there is a safety concern that little Jimmy might deside to try the principles of arc welding with the family silverware in the outlet. I would as a minimum suggest to any buyer with small children (or dumb teenagers) that temporary covers be fitted to outlets of this type.
Originally Posted By: jonofrey This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Thanks Gerry. I seem to recall something about the potential for appliance cords to hang over the edge making it attractive for small children to pull on.
Originally Posted By: jmyers This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
John,
The position of the receptacle is not a code violation that I know of. There is nothing that I know of that would prohibit them from being mounted horizontally, other than it looks like SH**. Joe H is correct about it has to be GFCI protected, mounting...I am not so sure about. I would like to have it mounted from the start and I really don't know why anyone would install them without it being mounted to begin with, receptacle or not.
Originally Posted By: gbeaumont This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
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"There is nothing that I know of that would prohibit them from being mounted horizontally, other than it looks like SH**. "
When NEC states:
406.4(E), receptacles installed to serve countertops cannot be installed in the countertop in the face-up position because liquid, dirt, and other foreign material can enter the receptacle.
well ? ![icon_mrgreen.gif](upload://tbe1CncrrOs48cXpHvziOT8r0T3.gif)
Originally Posted By: jmyers This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Gerry,
Surely you know that I meant on the cabinet or a wall, not on a floor or counter top. You silly. ![icon_biggrin.gif](upload://iKNGSw3qcRIEmXySa8gItY6Gczg.gif)
BTW....this should be under the electrical topic, right!
Originally Posted By: gbeaumont This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Hi Joe
I knew you knew that, but there never was a good reaon not to bust you, now was there ![icon_lol.gif](upload://zEgbBCXRskkCTwEux7Bi20ZySza.gif) ![icon_lol.gif](upload://zEgbBCXRskkCTwEux7Bi20ZySza.gif)
yes this should be in electrical, and your point is ???
Originally Posted By: Gino Conner This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Just to expound a little on what Gerry said and for the info of others.
NEC 210.52C5X qualifies these receptacles a little further on islands and peninsulas. The receptacle pictured appears fine, but it could not have been more than 12 inches below the counter. Also, if there were more than 6 inches of counter overhang or a cabinet hanging above it at a height of 20 inches or less, the receptacle would not be allowed at all on the side. ![icon_cool.gif](upload://oPnLkqdJc33Dyf2uA3TQwRkfhwd.gif)
Originally Posted By: Larry L Leesch This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
In Texas, the state has adopted the IRC 2000 and the receptacle in question is not only a correct install but a required one for islands in new construction. Make sure that you check inside the cabinet as the wiring must be in conduit and it must be GFI protected.