probably been asked but I will ask anyway. How many of you figure roof slope when defining the roof geometry of a home for square footage?
Well now, suh…don’t reckon as I can say ‘yes’…and don’t reckon as I can say ‘no’.
It jest all depends on the way the wind blows tonight…
The form says “total roof area” until they change it or the definition of total I’ll calculate for slope.
just wondering if clients are losing credits if slope is not taken into consideration.
You gotta love all the mental masturbation, when were going back to 50% wall length again, HAHA. 10% Flat is probably one of the stupidest ideas ever. # of nails is a close second in the land of nonsense
I agree, but we still gotta wait till the change is official.
what about the unofficial changes? # of nails… or slight changes in “approved” classes. Official?
Only if it is going to make a difference
Could make a huge difference hip roof on a 1800 sq.ft floor plan with a flat patio roof that is structurally attached and about 200sqft. No slope the house wood be flat…with slope it would be hip
According to the York manual you are just to calculate the horizontal measurements of all roof edges. That tells me that we should not use the slope to determine.
The new manual does.
How can you determine that a roof is flat without considering slope? By definition a flat roof is 2/12 or less - if you see a patio roof that is 3/12 attached to a hip roof that is 5/12 are people marking it as flat? I would think not.
By definition a flat roof is flat. A low slope roof is less than 3/12. For an 1802 form less than 2/12 or 1/12 is flat depending on who you ask.
Guy’s, this is the definitive answer to the question, run with it regardless of what anyone says. Nobody has the answer about wether it is right or wrong according to OIR, and they ain’t talking.
The question asks for a very specific answer. If they want a different answer they need to ask a different question.
the reason they are changing the form back is because this is so stupid
seriously, a house with a little flat porch… Calling the whole house flat…is retarted
I have now and have always had the greatest respect for Mr. Bill York. I have attended three of his classes. Regardless of his teachings with respect to this specific question the question is specific, succinct and can only be answered one way.
It is a comparison between the areas of the flat roof portion and the pitched roof portion of the roofing taken as a whole. The flat roof will be that which has little or no pitch. The pitched roof is the one on an angle as related to the foundation floor. The total square area of the roof is exactly that. If they want us to calculate the total square area under the roof, well, that is a different question and one not on the wind mit form.
I am sure if I ever get re-inspected on these the inspector will call it flat because they are not calculating slope.
I do love the results of the pole. If they change or when they change the form it also works well for us as everyone will need a new inspection when the renew their policy
True that. Changing the report back would mean a new inspection. And they need to change the 10% flat roof, because its such nonsense. 90% or more makes sense, and 50% of an elevation makes sense for non-hip.
Ok so now we’ll need a definition of a “major wall”. I don’t think they’ll ever get rid of the grey areas!