Sloppy Brick Work

Originally Posted By: psmothers
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This is off a home I did last week. It was a $230,000 home in a nice area 20 minutes out of town. The house was 2 years old. It amazes me some of the sloppy work people get away with these days on new builds. Besides these two I snapped 5 more of areas that the brick work was sub par. Enjoy!





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Originally Posted By: Jay Moge
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seems like they may have been going for the “used brick” look, but couldn’t get used brick??? either way a little caulking at the 908 casing will solve that. over the lentel??? gat me. icon_confused.gif


Originally Posted By: jeffghooper
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From the IRC.


R703.7.2.1 Support by steel angle. A minimum 6 inch-
es by 4 inches by 5/16 inch (152mmby 102mmby 8mm)
steel angle, with the long leg placed vertically, shall be
anchored to double 2 inches by 4 inches (51 mm by 102
mm) wood studs at a maximum on center spacing of 16
inches (406 mm). Anchorage of the steel angle at every
double stud spacing shall be a minimum of two 7/16 inch
(11.1 mm) diameter by 4 inches (102 mm) lag screws.
The steel angle shall have a minimum clearance to un-
derlying construction of 1/16 inch (1.6 mm). Aminimum
of two-thirds the width of the masonry veneer thickness
shall bear on the steel angle.
Flashing and weep holes
shall be located in the masonry veneer wythe in accor-
dance with Figure R703.7.1. The maximum height of
masonry veneer above the steel angle support shall be 12
feet, 8 inches (3861 mm). The air space separating the and so on


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Originally Posted By: mcyr
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Peter;


This has to be the lousiest masonry job I have ever seen for a house.

I see at least that the steel lintel is galvanized.
Wonder what the hole is for? 3"x3" steel lintel designed to be lagged to a wood structure?

Standard of practice here in Maine for an opening of 5' or less
is a 4"x3 1/2" x 5/16" steel lintel. That would have hidden the open cells of the brick that we see in the photo.

What is the joint at the doorway and slab?
Where is the threshold?

This must have been an interesting report. ha. ha.

Marcel


Originally Posted By: jhagarty
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jeffghooper wrote:


From the IRC.

R703.7.2.1



Thanks for the info.


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Originally Posted By: carl brown
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psmothers wrote:
This is off a home I did last week. It was a $230,000 home in a nice area 20 minutes out of town. The house was 2 years old. It amazes me some of the sloppy work people get away with these days on new builds. Besides these two I snapped 5 more of areas that the brick work was sub par. Enjoy!
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That brick job looks great copmaired to what this so called brick layer did!
http://www.badstucco.com/bricks/bricks.htm
Whats gonna keep the water out??



Originally Posted By: rcooke
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Please correct me if I am wrong but I do believe the Lintle should not be caulked .


I think it must be able to breath like weep holes in the brick vineer


They do have more brick out over the lintle then proper and the door should be caulked .


What slopy lousybrick work .


Roy Cooke sr


Originally Posted By: gmartin2
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I witnessed this type of slip-shod work in new construction also. So much for taking pride in your work. Where is the building inspector allowing this crap to pass? “oh its up to code” UH HUH! Is this Russia?


Originally Posted By: carl brown
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gmartin2 wrote:
I witnessed this type of slip-shod work in new construction also. So much for taking pride in your work. Where is the building inspector allowing this crap to pass? "oh its up to code" UH HUH! Is this Russia?

Funny you are the first to ask where it was!!!!! OVPK in johnson county kansas! When I took the pics I called the inspector and his response was(what do you want me to do drop everything and run everytime you call)
A month or so later I caught the builder his response when he saw the pics was (o no that could cost me a sell!)
So I gave a copy of the pics 8 by 10s to the new homeowner and told them to call me when they needed a witness! All that just renforced my feelings for some builders and some codes officials! And the so called bricklayer!


Here is part of the reason my website http://www.badstucco.com came to be!
http://www.badstucco.com/howwe.htm

The buying public does not have a chance!


Originally Posted By: mcyr
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Carl;

This was a very good article to state your point.
The only comment I can make is that Code Enforcement do exactly what they are suppose to and do not know any more beyond those parameters.

I have gone through this as a builder and pisses me off everytime this occurrs. They do not have a clue as to what they are looking at unless it pretains to the black and white explaination in the code book.

This bother me so much that I persued educating myself into code enforcement and got all the relative training material I could acquire, and that is when I found out that the training is all about the black and white issues at hand and nothing more.

Well, where do we go from here to keep these shoddy Contractors from scalping the Consumer? Good question. There dosen't appear to be an easy answer.

Any further comments on your subject would be appreciated.

Marcel


Originally Posted By: James D Mosier
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mcyr wrote:
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The only comment I can make is that Code Enforcement do exactly what they are suppose to and do not know any more beyond those parameters.


I'm going a bit farther here, I'm going to say that the best that Code Enforcement can do is exactly what they are suppose to do...


Unfortunatley many don't even bother with what they're supposed to do.


Originally Posted By: carl brown
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I am glad to see this hits a nerve with someone other then me!!!


Police eat donuts what do code enforcement officers eat?


They are the police of the housing industry aren’t they?


You guys are more then welcome to post in the new forum at http://www.badstucco.com
Useing an alias if you want!
Thanks Carl

ps If they were doing their job to a minimum I would not have very many pictures!!!!
This will make you shake your head even more!!!!
http://www.badstucco.com/howwe.htm
It made me even madder!!!
One more thing is anybody hireing?????
27 years in the stucco trade and I QUIT!!


Originally Posted By: kwilliams
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carl brown wrote:

Police eat donuts what do code enforcement officers eat?
They are the police of the housing industry aren't they?



OOOO that's not a crack on the police ? is it ? ![icon_cry.gif](upload://r83gSGUzNOacIqpjVReDwcR83xZ.gif)


Originally Posted By: carl brown
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kwilliams wrote:
carl brown wrote:

Police eat donuts what do code enforcement officers eat?
They are the police of the housing industry aren't they?



OOOO that's not a crack on the police ? is it ? ![icon_cry.gif](upload://r83gSGUzNOacIqpjVReDwcR83xZ.gif)

Not in a mean way!!!!!



Originally Posted By: pkelley
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The lower part of the door looks as if a window was taken out and a door put in it’s place.so not as bad of a brick job than more of the job was not finished …brick work cleaned and caulking after the mourter was fully set