Thermal images saved my bacon

At least hold it closer to the sink surface

Yup! It is their burden of proof to show evidence that it was not…

HI SOP states you are to find things that don’t work as intended, safety, and anything else in the SOP that is required reporting. If your state requires you to state in your report that it was working, then you do. Otherwise, it is implied that it is.

But I do like that “Pie in the Face” thing! :+1:

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Lol, I bet you still have some lunch In your mustache!

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Beats the hell out of that Codpiece on your face!!

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You ain’t foolin’ nobody!!

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FYI…

:rofl: :rofl:…im good!

Making a father proud!

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My comment is going to go a different direction. Are you a thermographer?
My next comment is directed to IR users who have never gotten any training with their cameras. I was once one of you until I was royally embarrassed. If you are not a thermographer, my two cents, tread carefully when reporting IR observations. It is a great way to get in trouble. You don’t need Level I training for most residential thermal imaging. The Certified Residential Thermographer (CRT) program provides sufficient training for most of what we do as HIs in most homes. But get that CRT training if you are going to use IR to provide better informed information for your client, but also to protect yourself.
For instance, the photo in this thread of the laser thermometer on the steel sink, does not account for possible emissivity off the shiny metal surface that can lead to erroneous temperature readings.

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Thus a regular thermometer works better. You can buy them at the grocery store. $10.00
Take a picture and keep the high priced hardware for where its really needed.

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I use a digital steak thermometer. It makes a nice photo.

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I am a certified thermographer and have the HT 19 thermal camera by HTI. I read all the comments below but didn’t see any matching what I do, so I am humbly submitting my two cents worth. When I use my IR camera and point it at the water heater, it lights up like a Christmas tree. I am given the temperatures of the TPR valve, the cold/hot water pipes out the top and the varying water temps of the tank itself. All in image form of course. All the proof I’ll ever need for this and other components of the home. Thanks guys
Shawn

I’m not sure I can afford a steak thermometer that takes pictures. :thinking:

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Just hold your hand under the water and see how long it takes to achieve a 3rd degree burn. Jeez, you guys make this so complicated. Don’t need all those fancy gadgets.

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Interesting chart. I like a hot shower in winter, closer to 106, but my wife runs the shower closer to 110. I like to explain to a client that 130 is a rare steak. That usually convinces them that the temperature needs to be turned down.

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Actually (not that it really matters) but, the IR spectrum of light does not go through water. So as long as the sink is wet, you are not measuring the metal. But you are correct, in that those thermometers are not accurate and you do not know what it is actually looking at. And yes, it will average in the metal when calculating. “Spot size ratio” is another subject for discussion for those using these. In the OP post, he is way too far away from the water to get a correct temp. But that span of deviation is not that critical (+/- 5F) still works.

Also, That red dot is not where the temp is being taken.

Not to nit-pick this subject, but just hoping for a better understanding of what happens here. A regular thermometer (or better yet a thermistor) is the proper and best tool to measure fluids (air and water). Seeing we are looking for a qualitative measurement, IR is too much work and too difficult to accomplish a correct measurement for most.

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I agree with you, David about this being a qualitative measurement. I always include a picture of my IR thermometer showing the hot water temp. Interestingly, whenever this topic comes up I do parallel measurements for a week or two just to make sure I’m not crazy. I use my DST (digital steak thermometer) and the IR thermometer at the same time. The difference is never more than 1.5 degrees (F) apart. No matter what the surface of the sink or strainer ring is. (I may still be crazy but I’m confident in my water temp measurements)