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#1

Originally Posted By: dbush
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Doing this small home saturday, about 1000 sf. I got up the ladder into the attic with a heat index I swear was 450 in the shade. I got myself settled at the top of the scuttle door inside the attic, looked down to talk to my client, and the next thing I know my foot was going through the attic floor/garage ceiling. I still have not figured out how it fell through yet, because I don’t remember my foot moving. I was proud of myself for containing any words that came to mind since my client was almost directly underneath me.

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#2

Originally Posted By: gbeaumont
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Hi Dave, tough luck, thats one of those things that we’ve all nearly done at some time. I slipped badly a few months ago and was staggered that I didn’t do any damage (thank god for lath and plaster !)


Stay safe

Gerry

BTW did you write up the ceiling damage ![icon_lol.gif](upload://zEgbBCXRskkCTwEux7Bi20ZySza.gif) ![icon_lol.gif](upload://zEgbBCXRskkCTwEux7Bi20ZySza.gif) ![icon_lol.gif](upload://zEgbBCXRskkCTwEux7Bi20ZySza.gif)

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#3

Originally Posted By: wcampbell
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1/2 inch sheetrock ceiling (failed under testing) icon_wink.gif

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#4

Originally Posted By: gbeaumont
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Hi Will, should read failed under tester icon_cool.gif

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#5

Originally Posted By: dbush
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I thought real seriously about writing:


The ceiling between the garage and the attic is not complete. While this is a cosmetic item, it also is a serious fire hazard......

Come to find out though, the client drove down from Kansas City (3.5 miles), he was buying it as investment rental property. He got back to KC and found out he had been laid off that afternoon. Good thing I got my check while he was here.

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"LIFE'S TOUGH, WEAR A HELMET"

#6

Originally Posted By: Michael Zwerin
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Dave,


Sorry to hear about the [embarassing] slip of events. Guess that's one of the reasons we carry GCL insurance huh?

As for the temperature in the attic, I feel for you. Here in south Florida, I swear the average attic (badly insulated and even worsely ventilated) the temps. regularly exceed 120 by mid-day. A very good reason for scheduling inspections in the morning hours...

Last week I did a house that the attic was so well-ventilated that being up there for an extended period was the same temp. as below in the garage. What a pleasant surprize that was. Usually, the attic is so hot that I can't bear it for more than say 5 minutes. Remember to have that face cloth and lots of drinking water near-by to finish those pesky attic inspections.

Be careful out there,
Michael

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#7

Originally Posted By: nstone
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I am a new home inspector and was wondering how you handled this with your client? Did you offer to repair and if this is something we can repair should we offer to do it? icon_question.gif

#8

Originally Posted By: wcampbell
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Here in Texas as we are FORBIDDEN to work on any house that we inspect I would say: Offer to have a Licensed Professional do the work.


If it is something that broke because of carelessness, accept the responsibility and pay for your mistakes.


If it is something that failed under testing; i.e. , a faucet that comes off in your hand, it’s not your fault. The problem lies with the homeowner for not doing general maintenence.

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#9

Originally Posted By: dbush
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Neal, this is something that I could fix - HOWEVER, the PR that I will get for having it PROFESSIONALLY fixed right away is worth it. Even if the people involved remember it later, they will remember that I got it fixed, not I tried to fix it myself, but…

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Dave Bush


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#10

Originally Posted By: nstone
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yes indeed and a very good point I will remember. Thankyou. icon_cool.gif

#11

Originally Posted By: ltrower
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Dave,


I have been trying to figure out how to do attic inspection here in Oklahoma. They told us un school not to even consider doing that in the summer heat we have. Most of the attics are over 125. Does anyone have an idea???

Lee Trower

#12

Originally Posted By: wcampbell
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I would say that it would depend on the inspector and his/her own capibilities.


I used to cook in a truck stop kitchen that was 120 all the time.


If you can do it then do it. icon_wink.gif

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#13

Originally Posted By: dbush
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Lee, I just basically “suck it up and do it”. I work inside for a while first, then I do the attic, and then I cool off in the house for a while, then I crawl through the crawl space.

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Dave Bush


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#14

Originally Posted By: gbeaumont
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Hi Lee, I am in the same camp as Dave, it just goes with the teritory frankly I am worried that a training school are teaching not to go in there above 125 who said that ? the liabilities you would leave yourself open to buy excluding going in because it’s too hot don’t bare thinking about. Dress light and carry alot of ice water.


Regards

Gerry

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#15

Originally Posted By: Michael Zwerin
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Ditto! Can’t imagine not inspecting an attic. Regardless of the temp up there, if you can safely access any or all of the attic, you just gotta do it. Further, there may be multiple attic accessways, check them all!


Imagine this, the outside of the roof appears OK, but you skip the attic inspection and later the new homeowner finds broken rafters, a rat's nest, etc. etc. that all should have been seen in your inspection. What's that homeowner likely to do regarding your incomplete visual property review?

Just my 2 cents worth...

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#16

Originally Posted By: jhagarty
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#17

Originally Posted By: ltrower
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Gentleman, I thank each and all of you for your advice. I guess another way to look at it is fat is supposed to melt with heat and I could stand to loose about 30 lbs. I totally agree there are to many things that could be missed by not going up there.


Lee Trower

#18

Originally Posted By: jhagarty
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#19

Originally Posted By: ismetaniuk
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This membership was a big waste of my time!

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Igor


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#20

Originally Posted By: jremas
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Igor has built in protection if he falls. When he comes out of the attic and his clothes are soaking wet, his hair is never out of place. Kind of like a built in helmet to protect his head. I once saw him hit his head on a truss in the attic and the truss broke. Once again, the hair was not out of place.

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