Originally Posted By: cpatterson1
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Originally Posted By: bking
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I’m surprised there was enough light in the crawl to be seen from the bathroom. Sounds like either badly built or settling.
At the very least it needs caulking.
Originally Posted By: Jay Moge
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i like your thinking Bruce, bathroom floors should be caulked anyway.
Originally Posted By: rmeyers
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Cheryl,
Either the floor is going down or the wall is going up!! Most likely, the floor is going down.
If the settlement was in the foundation along the outside wall then it would appear that the floor system is settling out from under the wall sole plate.
Since you can see light, (under the base molding?) I would investigate the condition of the exterior siding in this area, there most likely is a substantial horizontal crack at the floor line.
The exterior crack may not be evident if there is vinyl siding covering the area. The vinyl siding will still allow light and air infiltration.
Caulking is a cosmetic fix to what could be a serious structural issue if foundation settlement continues.
Just my thoughts!! Good luck with future inspections!!
HAVE A GREAT DAY!!!   
Russ Meyers
Originally Posted By: dspencer
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Caulk is a duct tape replacement
Originally Posted By: mcyr
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Since the duct tape for the duct was replaced with the sealant, let’s call the bathroom caulking a sealant also. Now we are all correct.
Marcel
Originally Posted By: rmeyers
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Sorry Cheryl, I didn’t address suggested fix previously.
The first step would be to stabilize the foundation and surrounding soil conditions to prevent further settlement and make foundation repairs as needed. (Recommend consulting appropriate engineers)
Jack-up and/or shim floor structure to meet and support the exterior wall and re-secure the connection between the floor system and wall system so they are air tight and structurally sound.
Make exterior repairs as needed to reconstitute the intended thermal and weather resistant characteristics of the original and (if applicable) subsequent siding systems.
Recommend that all work be performed by a qualified GC and under the direct supervision of a professional engineer.
OR
CAULK IT as recommended previously. (Preferrably with a good grade of structural caulk??)   
Again, HAVE A GREAT DAY!!!   
Russ Meyers
Originally Posted By: mcyr
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Russell;
Could I asked how you concluded all this based on the photo supplied?
All I can see is a dirty wall with flat paint, clam shell trim used as a base board and an old floor of linoluem or such.
No offense, I am just curious.
Marcel
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Originally Posted By: jrivera
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and might I add that the toilet paper could be more centered
also should the paper roll over or under ?
hmmm ???
Originally Posted By: mcyr
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Justo;
I misssed the over or under and location of 3' from back wall and 2' up.
The picture kind of pulls your eyes away from the subject.
Marcel
Originally Posted By: jonofrey
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Cheryl,
Looks like you need some caulk in that crack! 
Oh boy, now I'm in for it.
Originally Posted By: Mark Anderson
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Hey,
Maybe Mr Happy Crack and the Crackettes can help 
http://www.thecrackteam.com
Originally Posted By: phinsperger
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Mark,
Good to see that you found the other threads on this BB 
Originally Posted By: rmeyers
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write it up in my reports!!!
I just fix it when nobody is looking!! HAVE A GREAT DAY!!!
Russ Meyers
Originally Posted By: Jay Moge
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| mcyr wrote: |
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Russell; Could I asked how you concluded all this based on the photo supplied? All I can see is a dirty wall with flat paint, clam shell trim used as a base board and an old floor of linoluem or such. No offense, I am just curious. Marcel |
that base board looks like colonial molding to me. or something similar. clamshell is just a gradual long arc tapper isn't it?
Originally Posted By: mcyr
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Hi. Jay,
I stand to be corrected, I hate it when that happens.
Marcel
Originally Posted By: mcyr
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Russell;
I had kind of assummed myself that you had assummed all these prognosis of repairs.
I just wanted to make sure how you concluded them by not assumming.
You know what that spells, right, a$% of you and me. Ah well, time to time we are all in the same boat, aren't we? ha. ha.
Marce
Originally Posted By: pabernathy
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hmm…well I am surly to stab wrong here but did you check the flooring under the bathroom, any signs of previous moisture leakage, leaking toilet, sloping towards that wall…anything else like that.
The moisture could cause area around that to sag as well while the molding holds it shape...
anyway...kinda one of those things we can post about on here but we really have to see...if it was signs of settle...I would think you would see other signs elsewhere to come to that conclussion.
Should have been able to tell alot from under it....were you able to get to that area to see more.....?
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Originally Posted By: Jay Moge
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Hi. Jay, I stand to be corrected, I hate it when that happens. Marcel |
Hi Marcel, good to see your doing well.
i just love the fact that i could prove you wrong, it doesn't happen often, so i'll take it when i can get it . colonial molding as baseboard just shows me that who ever did the job wasn't as experienced with carpentry as one would hope. or just a resourcfull home owner with a scrap pile in the shed.
Originally Posted By: mcyr
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Hi. Jay;
Hope you are well also and Merry Christmas to you and your family and to all that might read this site.
Marcel