Originally Posted By: kjones
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Potential client called today and said his house is sided with Drivit. Never heard the term before - Anybody know what it is?
Potential client called today and said his house is sided with Drivit. Never heard the term before - Anybody know what it is?
Originally Posted By: bkelly1
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Here it is another name for eifs. Many problems if not installed correctly.
Originally Posted By: bkelly1
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http://www.defective-stucco.com/FAQs.shtml
Google "dryvit issues". I always recommend inspections by someone else for moisture behind it. I do not see enough if it to get certified.
I inspected one a month age and talked with client about the dryvit inspection. Had to talk him into it , more less. He ended up getting one done and the owner had to tear off every piece of dryvit and repair, it was about 75% of the house. List price was around 320,000.00
Originally Posted By: lkage
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Here;s some info.
One brand of EIFS (exterior insulated finish system).
http://www.dryvit.com/
What is EIFS?
http://www.eima.com/eima/eifs.htm
http://homebuying.about.com/cs/syntheticstucco/a/eifs_facts.htm
Dryvit class action settlement site:
http://www.stuccosettlement.com/
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Originally Posted By: aslimack
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“Drivit” is specific name brand. The base coat and the finish coat were “Drivit” products, and the foam and mesh were purchased seperately. The base coat is mixed with a type 1 portland cement and water. The finish coat is used right outta the bucket. The combination is referred to as “EIFS”.
I used to install it years ago. Approximately 20-22 years ago....
Adam, A Plus
Originally Posted By: kjones
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Thanks for the info = I think I’ll pass on the inspection.
Originally Posted By: bkelly1
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Sub out the dryvit inspections???
Originally Posted By: sspradling
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Do the home inspection. On the exterior section, say something like " EIFS is used on the exterior of this house. There have been numerous problems with this system, and it is the subject of a class action lawsuit. Recommend further evaluation by a certified EIFS inspector." You could list the websites offered by others. The key is to educate your client, not scare them off, or be scared off yourself from doing this inspection. Carefully look for any signs of moisture on the inside surfaces of walls that have EIFS on the exterior. Consider getting certified to do the EIFS inspections. Around here, the going rate is $250 per side.
Stu
Originally Posted By: jrooney
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Ken
Depending on the age of the drivit system you should have no problems. You can go to drivit home and download their installation manual (which I suggest you do). It’s good info for all EIFS products. The owner of the home should have a warranty fo the drivit installation. If no warraanty then find out who in your area installed and find out if they still have any guarantee on the home. Your local Drivit representative should be willing to help you. In fact if you have a local chapter of NACHI you should consider having one of the EIFS representatives give you a training.James Rooney
Originally Posted By: mmorris1
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I believe EIFS stands for Exterior Insulating Finish System or something like that. There are several different types of EIFS systems. Dryvit just happens to be one of them.
There are several issues and potential installation complications. The type of paint or elastomeric bldg coating used has the potential of not being compatible, the type of sealant used has the potential of being incompatible, and the list goes on. From my experience, most EIFS are used on commercial buildings. This is better because I personally feel alot more thought goes into commercial structures and several engineers who understand the system are involved in the overall project. I also know that alot of companies who manufacture EIFS systems or complimentary products will not offer warranties on residential applications.
Best to just stay away in my opinion.
Originally Posted By: rcooke
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| mmorris1 wrote: |
| I believe EIFS stands for Exterior Insulating Finish System or something like that. There are several different types of EIFS systems. Dryvit just happens to be one of them.
There are several issues and potential installation complications. The type of paint or elastomeric bldg coating used has the potential of not being compatible, the type of sealant used has the potential of being incompatible, and the list goes on. From my experience, most EIFS are used on commercial buildings. This is better because I personally feel alot more thought goes into commercial structures and several engineers who understand the system are involved in the overall project. I also know that alot of companies who manufacture EIFS systems or complimentary products will not offer warranties on residential applications. Best to just stay away in my opinion. |
Listen to Mark let some one else do it I see to many concerns and many problems .
I run from them it is a speciality and lots of difficulties .
My opinion Roy Cooke sr
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Originally Posted By: dbowers
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Obviously most jobs were in Kansas City but we also went to St. Louis, Wichita, KS, Des Moines, Columbia, MO, Springfield, MO, Lake Ozark and Branson, MO and into Tulsa and Dallas. Two (2) houses were done right - most had been inspected by other home inspectors that either didn’t know what to look for OR didn’t realize how significant a missing detail can be.
Be safe and be smart - if you're not trained don't try and talk about something you're not qualified to do AND give someone like me a chance to rip you up next year when something goes bad.
Originally Posted By: ecrofutt
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That doesn’t mean you run from the home inspection, does it?
I do the home inspection and recommend that the buyer get an EIFS inspection from an inspector certified by the Exterior Design Institute.
http://www.exterior-design-inst.com/members.html
Just like I would on any other specialty item.
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Georgetown, Kentucky
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Originally Posted By: dandersen
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Because there is some expert that you can shove it off onto, that does not mean that you can’t inspect the house and note all the normal stuff you look at with any other siding.
Places where water can get in. Indication of water coming out, window and door trim maintenance, irregularities in the siding (cracks, discoloration, blistering paint on adjacent wood materials).
Just remember that Dryvet is very waterproof and a good insulator. You can not "See" how it was installed in most cases so your inspection is limited. Gutter maintenance, kick out flashing and such is much more important with this siding than with others.
If the client wants the Dryvet inspected, tell them to get it inspected. But, the Dryvit Inspector will not do all the other things you do, so you still need the job.
I have found scores of Dryvet problems before I got a moisture meter. Just use you same investigative technique as any other component.
I do not inspect too many Dryvet sided houses because most Realtors I have worked with will not even show a full Dryvit house. Not that I agree with that.
An EIFS Inspection should be done often during ownership (as often as the A/C should be serviced). As you know, this seldom gets done and the EIFS gets blamed for the failure. The client should be advised of this maintenance inspection requirement and if they don't want that headache, buy a brick house. 