While doing a wind mit yesterday I encountered a home that had single strap RTW at the bond beam. However the roof was attached to the gable frame with clips. See photos. Would you label this as Cat B or C? My inclination is that the roof-gable frame connection is the weak point, therefore clips.
Good question. I would thinks clips.
Pic 2 is not roof to wall pic
Do you consider gable end attachments for RTW?
Good point! It is still a vertical wall attachment isn’t it.
I used to be a QA inspector for the MSFH program.
We were trained (back then) gables were not part of RTW to consider.
What is MSFH?
mysafefloridahome… the program that started the whole wind mitigation thing.
Thank you Marc and others. So does this mean that you would not consider the clip attachment of the roof rake to the gable as a consideration; rather, gable base to wall is the point to consider?
correct for wind mitigation inspection purposes.
What areas do you cover?
Tampa Bay area, as part of Certified Home Inspectors of West Florida, Inc.
Cool. I just always like to know what areas guys around here cover.
Just got back & received this email spam.
Whadda ya think Meek?
I’ve highlighted on the info sheet:
“Foamseal adhesive can also bring roofs with inefficient nailing attachments… back up to code”
It seems like they’re stating an older roof deck attachment that is more
than every 6 inches can be upgraded to FBC compliant.
Try to tell the insurance carrier that on the report!
What if the nails are only 6D.
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I have never personally seen it but I here there is a good product that basically acts like super-gluing the roof deck to the trusses and it does count for SWR BUT I would need a spec sheet or something from the manufacturer to mark C for roof deck attachment.
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Foam Seal does qualify for RDA -“C” and SWR. Don’t see it much around here.
John F, do not use the clips on the outlookers for consideration of RTW. Probably should be a consideration, but currently it is not.
I received the same email this morning, I didn’t know what it was about.
Got it! I just didn’t know what the abbreviation was.
So what came of this?
The “clips” for the fly rafter framing on the gable wall should not be considered for roof to wall.