Wood foundations

Originally Posted By: jsmith3
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I was recently asked about inspecting a house with a wood foundation.


We discussed some of these at HI school and nothing good was said about them. Anybody out there with any experience or knowledge about these. It was built by Melody Homes and has a finished basement with wood walls. It is located in east central Indiana


Thanks Jon


Originally Posted By: rcloyd
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Jon:


I have inspected two of these type dwellings (as a building inspector) as they were being constructed. Both of them were leaking (water into the basement) before the homes were occupied. Both owners/builders told me they regret having ever heard of a wood foundation. I suppose they would perform ok in a good drained soil type such as sand or gravel. Not a good idea where soils are expansive as they are in my neck of the woods.

Everything should be pressure treated lumber below grade.

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Originally Posted By: cbuell
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Jon,


properly installed these are great foundation systems. I installed a lot of them in the 70’s and wouldn’t use anything else for myself. You should be able to find a lot of info on the Weyerhauser web site since they were responsible for getting the system going to deal with building houses in the Perma-frost of Alaska. Email me privately if you can’t find any info.


Originally Posted By: kfulton
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Kelley Fulton


True North Home Inspections


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Originally Posted By: kfulton
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OK,


That did not work, I’ll try it again… This is off a web site I found when researching the last wood foundation I inspected. I have inspected three this year. If built right, they are warm and dry. If not built well… make sure you have a quality moisture meter, test and probe every thing.


Some people may be skeptical about the long-term durability or strength of wood foundations. However, accelerated aging tests, and use for over 40 years attest to the durability of this system. Permanent wood foundations for residences have been constructed for decades in the U. S.. Wood foundations resist cracking, and are easy to insulate and finish for additional interior living areas. Over 300,000 U.S. homes have been constructed with wood foundation systems.
Because wood foundations are significantly lighter than concrete or block walls, they may be placed on gravel beds, eliminating the need to cast and cure a concrete footing. A concrete slab may form the floor within the foundation, but most manufacturers promote the use of a treated wood floor system. Manufacturers state that wood foundations are also more thermally efficient and elastic, therefore less subject to cracking and moisture penetration.
Typically, walls are framed with 2x8 treated studs on 16" centers, or as specified by the designers. The exterior foundation surfaces are normally clad with ?" or 5/8" treated plywood, and polyethylene film is typically applied before backfilling. Following excavation, a base layer of gravel, coarse sand, or crushed stone is placed and leveled. Panelized foundation sections can then be set in place, or the foundation can be site framed as for conventional wood walls. Fasteners must be stainless steel or other corrosion resistant material. When wood floors are used, floor joists are placed on sleeper strips, directly on the aggregate bed. Wood joists also allow the incorporation of plumbing, wiring, and HVAC ductwork into the floor system, prior to the installation of treated floor sheathing. For basements finished as living space, the cavities of wood foundation framing are easily insulated with conventional batts or blown cellulose. Plumbing, wiring, and drywall are installed as for any framed wall.
Depending on the location and soil conditions, a sump pit, drain piping, and appropriate vapor barriers are recommended. Exterior plywood surfaces are typically covered with minimum 6 mil polyethylene prior to backfilling.
Permanent wood foundations are permitted by the 2000 International Residential Code (IRC), which specifies fasteners, wood treatment, and gravel or crushed stone footings. Wood foundations are also accepted by most lenders and insurance companies. Codes often refer to American Wood Preservers Association (AWPA) standards. They require certain species of Pine or Fir, limited to 20% heartwood, treated to 0.6 preservative retention (compared to 0.25 to 0.4 for regular treated wood), kiln-dried, and stamped by the treater. The four treatment methods previously approved by AWPA are CCA, ACZA, ACQ Type B, and ACA. However, the Environmental Protection Agency will not permit CCA for residential use after 2003. Check with local code offices to determine the requirements in your area.

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Originally Posted By: lewens
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Kelly stole my thunder. I have built a few of these myself and so far all I have done have remained dry, warm and cozy. When constructing you must be very meticulous as to manufacturer’s specs.but if done right they are every bit as good and sometimes better than anything out there.


Larry


From the great white north eh.


Originally Posted By: roconnor
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Do a search on the board for “wood foundation” topics, as it has been kicked around a few times.


Although they are not common in my neck of the woods, they seem to work fairly well in some areas that stay pretty dry and also don't have real decay or WDI problems. I believe APA (www.apawood.org), SPC (www.southernpine.com), and some of the other wood organizations have some good online info for those types of foundations. Take with one grain of salt, as they are promoting wood products of course. Local foundation contractor associations can also be a good source.

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