Marcel go do unnatural things to yourself.
There was nothing wrong in posting what I did.
Wayne can join you.
Marcel go do unnatural things to yourself.
There was nothing wrong in posting what I did.
Wayne can join you.
Aside from being the only outlet on the island, another question is where does the kitchen end and the next room or area begin when the only seperation is the island? I’ve seen these islands that seperate the kitchen from the familyroom the outlets on the end or the small back splash are GFIC but there is one on the front at “normal” room height that serves the LR which is not GFIC protected.
Hey the PDF is great for my documents file and the text excerpt is perfect for my clipboard program…so thanks both and “quit your yapin”.
Hmmmm…are you tryin to claim common sense on this thread guy?
How dare you and what gives you the right?
Mike, please explain unnatural things to yourself, is that something you have experienced with, that I have not had the opportunity to learn over the years myself.?
I have no idea what you are talking about.
Use your imagination.
Maybe Roy can help;-)
Why would Roy be brought up in this conversation and have anything to do with this thread, when he has not even made a post.?
Do you have an infatuation with him so bad that you have to bring his name up?
My imagination can only come up with building inspection ideas that can possibly help other members. Can you attest to the same?
Mr. Larson, you have a problem. Sorry to have to say it.
Marcel, Are you stalking me?
No, I am just responding to your berage of post that seem to bring up Members thay you have been stalking yourself.
Your game will not work with me. Good nighr.
Me no stalk Roy. He stalks me and lies and other nasty business I will not go into here. PM if you want know.
GFCI protection is required when the receptacle serves the countertop, island or peninsula. If it doesn’t meet the criteria of serving one of those location it doesn’t require GFCI protection.
And to extend the countertop circuit into the living room (if they trip when tested) would be a code violation. Different, but related subject.
Please explain why an island counter with no water requires it but not the counter at the far side of a stove from the sink.
Any countertop > 2’ wide requires an outlet and every outlet serving a countertop in the kitchen is required to be GFCI protected. Islands and peninsulas are required to have outlets also.
You use appliances that contain water often in a kitchen. Additionally, the floors of a kitchen are often wet. I think that is the reason for having all the outlets protected.
OK let me repost my illustration of NEC code again as you have not looked at it yet and I will even add a yellow box conflicting with your view point.
Here it is…
Nice conflicting illustration of the same code …no comment to go with that Chris?
There’s a link. All outlets that serve at Kitchen countertops require GFCI protection since I think 1996. I don’t have the code handy, but I’m positive that’s correct.
Here:
210.8(A)(6) Kitchens](http://www.ecmag.com/?articleID=4899&fa=article)
"All 125-volt, single-phase, 15- and 20-ampere receptacles installed to serve the countertop surfaces in kitchens must be GFCI protected
Unlike some of the other locations, no exceptions are provided with this requirement. Where located in a kitchen, any receptacle installed to serve the countertop surface must have GFCI protection for personnel. For example, a receptacle has been installed on the end of a peninsular countertop in the kitchen. The receptacle is less than 12 inches below the countertop, and therefore it serves the countertop surface. Another receptacle has been installed in the back of the peninsular cabinet. This receptacle, located more than 12 inches below the countertop surface, does not serve the countertop surface. While the receptacle serving the countertop surface requires GFCI protection, the other receptacle does not."
I really see no good reason for it other than it’s required by the NEC.
Actually many kitchen appliances are double insulated so they have a two wire cord and plug and are ungrounded. GFCI protection would add a measure of safety to these appliances even if the possibility of getting shocked is minute.
CC
http://www.necplus.org/Features/Pages/TheGround-FaultCircuit-InterrupterProtectionJourney.aspx?sso=0
i’m with you and will stick with Mike Holt info/diagrams