bachelor basement

Hi guys , what does the code say for bachelor basements in Canada (Quebec to be specific)


Hello Patrick,
Are you asking out of curiosity or to include the information in a report?
Remember we are not Building code inspectors.I may be wrong but I would think you would inspect the area and report it just as you see it.I think the the client will need to investigate the bylaw in that area regarding a legal apt in the home.
Good luck

No, i was talking it over with my neighbor (he want to build one) my question was about electricity , : will he need to add a sub pnl or the 200 amp will be enought??

Tell him to make sure he checks with the city by-laws and take out permits for all work done. Lots of regs to comply to.

thx Charles!

Section 6969.69:Bachelorettes required in all sleeping areas??:stuck_out_tongue:

Hi Patrick:
Adding a sub panel and 200 amps are two different things. If you want to add a sub panel it means you have 200 amps or what ever main breaker or fuse, and then you need to seperate electrical panels( for any reason). It means your neighber wants to have one electrical panel for his/her home and one sub panel for the bachelor. But the main point is, if you have 200 amps for the home, is it enough to supply the bachelor too?
So this is the question. A 200 amps service can supply power for home and bachelor?
Answer to this question is not easy because you need to know how much power do you need for the bachelor? but I try to make it easier for you. Canadian Electrical Code ( c.e.c) says for the first 90 sqm ( squar meter) for the basic load we need 5000 watts and each additional 90 sqm you have to add 1000 watts [c.e.c part one code 8-200(1)(a)] to your calculation. So it means you have to calculate or you should talk to an electrician. And in addition as Charles mentioned you should check with the city. So if the electrician says 200 amps is not enough you have to upgrade your panel and then you can have a sub panel for the bachelor.

Good luck

Like Charles stated he needs to get approval from the city or town to have a separate dwelling unit. If the zoning permits the additional unit the building codes will require a fire separation of 45 mins between the two units with separate exits… and the list goes on.

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Accessory Dwelling Units and the Ontario Fire Code

What You Need to Know About Retrofit Section 9.8

Accessory Dwelling Units can contain some dire pitfalls for a new owner and anyone involved in the sale of such a unit. It’s one more thing to be concerned about, because the consequences of having an apartment declared illegal or closed down can be disastrous.

Any separate unit with its own cooking, eating, sleeping, and sanitary facilities in a detached or semi-detached house or row house is classified as an “accessory dwelling unit”. It doesn’t matter whether it’s a basement apartment for rent or a unit to accommodate a family member or a nanny.

In Ontario it’s been a roller coaster ride for homeowners in recent years. In 1994 the New Democratic government changed the law so that municipalities could no longer ban basement apartments. In May of 2001 the Conservative government reversed the rules and it’s expected that many cities will once again use zoning controls to block new accessory dwellings in the years ahead.

Strict fire regulations are now in effect, and any existing apartments that were occupied in November of 1995 are permitted – as long as they meet the new fire code. There’s also a new registry system, so officials can monitor compliance – and new penalties that are stiff enough to take seriously (fines of $25,000 or a year in the slammer!).

Before closing deals involving a basement apartment or duplex, triplex, or any other multiple dwelling, purchasers should ensure that they have obtained written confirmation of whether or not apartments are registered, and have been inspected and found to conform to the fire code.

To get an accessory dwelling unit certified in Ontario requires inspections by the local Fire Department and by the Electrical Safety Authority and possibly another by a local Ontario Building Code Official. In most cases, at least some renovations or repairs are required. Even if no renovations are needed to meet the fire code, fees alone can be a few hundred dollars.

Some areas of the Ontario Fire Code Retrofit Section 9.8 can be difficult to address, especially if the apartment was added as an afterthought in a typical home. For example, ceiling tiles and wood paneling in a basement apartment may be combustible and not meet with current requirements. These items may have to be removed or covered and owners are sometimes ordered to install a sprinkler system.

Fines and other legal consequences of not meeting the law are just the most obvious problems facing an owner of a unit that is not certified. Having to toss the tenant out is also obvious. But consider that insurance coverage or insurance claims may be denied, mortgages may be denied or nullified, and a tenant that is injured may have grounds for a civil suit.

A professional home inspection cannot certify a self-contained apartment.

wow it’s pretty technical!! thx guys appreciate it!

Very good Charles, worth printing