Commingled neutrals and grounds

Originally Posted By: rray
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Would this be one of those panels where the grounds and neutrals are improperly commingled?


http://www.nachi.org/bbsystem/usrimages/999EP2.jpg

This was in an apartment-to-condo conversion originally built in 1972.

I did not have the privilege of attending this inspection, but the picture has me concerned.

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Originally Posted By: Mike Parks
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Russel


No. This appears to be a panel fed from below which tells me it is probably on a slab. If it is this is a code compliant entrance.

That said they have more than 6 didconnects for power, Not allowed.

It is hard to tell from the picture where or not the grounding/bonding is proper.

If this was a "sub" panel you would be correct in your thoughts.

Mike P


Originally Posted By: jpope
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I see multi-family dwellings wired this way quite often. I believe we are looking at a sub-panel. Russel?


The service panels and meters are usually located out near the street somewhere and the grounds & neutrals (in the sub panel) are placed on the same bus.

No good.


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Originally Posted By: rray
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I know the building, and all the meters and service disconnects are located in a basement utility room. So my thinking is that this is a subpanel and the neutrals should be on a floating buss. In the picture it almost looks like there is a split down the middle where most of the grounds are on the left and most of the neutrals are on the right. But it is a solid buss.


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Originally Posted By: jpope
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I don’t think it’s split down the middle. Even if it is, there are still green and white wires together on the same bus.


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Originally Posted By: Mike Parks
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Russell


Given your response Jeff is correct.

Mike P.