Drone regulations coming, says Transport Canada

Rigorous rules proposed for recreational drone flyers,documents show
‘The recreational users are going to have to meet morestringent safety requirements,’ federal official says
By Ashley Burke, CBC NewsPosted: Oct 19, 2016 5:00 AM ET Last Updated: Oct 19, 2016 8:01 AM ET

New droneregulations coming, says Transport Canada ](http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/drone-regulations-transport-canada-1.3390895)
Licence andregistration, please: New rules for drones are on the way ](http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/canada-u-s-drones-rules-1.3280065)
Transport Canada is proposing that anyone flying adrone bigger than a tiny toy should have to register their devices, pass aknowledge test and pay for liability insurance, CBC News has learned.
Droneregulations coming, says Transport Canada](http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/drone-regulations-transport-canada-1.3390895)
Drones getmore popular, and the rules are getting stricter
The department is proposing that anyone operating a droneweighing more than 250 grams, including recreational users, should fallunder more rigorous regulations expected to be introduced in 2017.
“The proposed floor for very small UAVs is intended tominimize the risks to persons, based on the speed and potentiallethality,” the briefing note says. It adds that even “verysmall” drones can travel quickly and impart so much energy upon impactthat there is a 30 per cent “likelihood of lethality.”
‘Just getting too strict now’
The department’s plans are “overkill,” saidOttawa-based drone user Nick Howe.
“I think it’s just getting too strict now.”
Howe spent more than $2,300 on his recreational drone,including special parts, and has travelled across Canada making videos toshowcase aerial views of the country online. Just because some people areacting irresponsibly doesn’t mean all recreational users should have to pay theprice, he said.
“It just means more money I’m going to have tospend,” said Howe, who also started producing videos for real estatecompanies. “It’s a lot more of a hassle than anything.”
Safety concerns
Transport Canada staff began looking into regulations fordrones in 2010. Since then, the industry has boomed, prompting safetyconcerns.
“We need to regulate that to make sure that we don’thave a disaster,” said Aaron McCrorie, Transport Canada’s director generalof civil aviation, in an interview. “The recreational users are goingto have to meet more stringent safety requirements now.”
McCrorie has seen a dramatic increase not only inthe number of people buying drones, but also the number of users flyingthem dangerously close to airplanes and buildings.
In 2010, the department investigated one incident. In 2016,the department has investigated 82 potential infractions as ofSept. 1.
“We do have instances of these things crashing intovehicles, for example, so there has to be some means of accounting for the costof those damages,” McCrorie said, emphasizing the need forliability insurance.
Transport Canada is also considering age restrictions fordrone users, as exists for pilots. The department is proposing a minimum age of14 to operate a very small drone and a minimum of 16 to operate a droneheavier than one kilogram, according to a briefing note from April.
The government also plans to stop regulating based onrecreational versus commercial use. The new model is based on how muchpotential risk a drone could cause based on its weight and where it’sflown, according to Transport Canada.
But recreational drone user Andrea Robertson believes 250grams is “far too low” to fall under the new regulations.
Robertson, an Ottawa resident known as Lady Drone onYouTube, is afraid of heights, so she flies a Phantom drone to live theexperience through her camera. She’s glad there are new regulationscoming and agrees drones can be dangerous, but has concerns about findinginsurance to cover her if there’s an accident.
"Because I’m a hobbyist, not a commercial flyer, Ihaven’t been able to find any insurance companies that will provide insurance,"Robertson said. “The insurance companies, at this point, are onlyinterested in commercial fliers.”

Andrea Robertson flies drones as a hobby and says she hasbeen struggling to get insurance to cover her if she has an accident. (AshleyBurke/CBC News)
‘Less red tape’ for commercial users
Meanwhile, the proposed regulations could mean a lot lessred tape for those using drones for commercial use, such as making real estatevideos or inspecting construction sites. Instead of having to reapply at leastevery year for a certificate to fly drones commercially, it could get a loteasier.
“You go through the process once and then you’ll have alicence just like having an automobile licence,” said Mark Aruja, chairmanof the Board for Unmanned Systems Canada, a group that co-chaired the workinggroup to help develop the regulations.
“The expectation is we’ll have less red tape goingforward,” added Aruja. “But there will be a significant bar to meetin terms of getting that operating licence.”
Transport Canada launched consultations in 2015and received more than 100 written submissions. Staff members arecurrently drafting the regulations that could still change, and working todevelop the necessary licensing and exams before the regulations come intoeffect, likely sometime in 2017.

Good info Roy,

More detail here


Len can you please tell us why you would not post your more information on this NACHI forum .
Why would you send NACHI members to the OntarioACHI forum to get the more details .

Len can you please tell us why you would not post your more information on this NACHI forum .
Why would you send NACHI members to the OntarioACHI forum to get the more details .

I do it for a number of reasons:

  1. It’s easier and quicker for me to post a link
  2. A link takes people to the source for the information where they may choose to read more
  3. It ensures I don’t make mistakes when transcribing the information
  4. It ensures I don’t breach copyright by cutting and pasting
  5. It’s considered good web etiquette. Read here

One of the reasons for going onto a message board or other social media service is to improve rankings, linking back to a website, via trackbacks, pingbacks and links is considered par for the course, and is actively encouraged.

When I post a link to a site I manage (I managed around 40) I ensure that the links can be tracked back. That way both the site I am linking to, and the site I am linking from benefit from the link. So NACHI benefits every time someone clicks a link here that links to one of my managed sites in the way of a track-back.

Again, it’s good web etiquette and quid-pro-quo for services rendered.

Copying and pasting does none of that so benefits no-one but the poster. I hope that fully answers your great question.

Looks to me like you are trolling the NACHI members so you can get more members for OntarioACHI .

I have not seen on the OntarioACHI web site sending any members from there to the NACHI site .

Roy, you are entitled to your opinion. Evidence would prove otherwise.

Evidence would prove otherwise .

Great I would appreciate if you would show me some of this evidence .

How did this turn into bashing again. Roy, I still consider you a friend and a great mentor but it is time to let this baby sleep.

Sorry I am for NACHI and its members.

I do not feel it is proper for another association to come here and ask our members to go to their forum for info that is important to the NACHI membership .

We will have to agree to disagree on this one. I know I have clicked on links many times that take you to other associations. I have zero problem with that and it has no impact on the information I have received.

Greg, Thanks for the support, but if Mr Cooke is intent on derailing every thread in order to carry out some personal vendetta against OntarioACHI and it’s volunteers he is more than welcome to do so.

In so doing he fails to prove any of his points. He clearly identifies that he is the one doing the attacking. He shows that he is prepared to pounce for no reason at all, even when our posts actually compliment him on his input.

He also provides us with many opportunities to show what we are doing for Ontario Inspectors that InterNACHI cannot. Not because it can’t but because of it’s sheer global coverage and complexity. It cannot focus on local issues with the same degree of precision. That’s why there is a need for Organisations such as AlbertaACHI and OntarioACHI.

Where he asks for release of information that does not break our operational guidelines, I am always willing to assist. In answering him, I am also helping others to see the light.

While he appears to desire to create havoc for OntarioACHI our gradual but steady increase in paid membership shows he is actually helping us. More power to his elbow say I. :smiley:

No problem Roy. Glad to help.


OntarioACHI full-member with 5 years history, no claims, and CMI or CCHI.
You are 5 years old?
Recent CMI’s do not have to be audited?

Oh yes! And derailer #2 is tagged…he leads with a swift action of not reading the content properly, followed by a swinging undecipherable comment and finishes with a big handful of **Huh!!!

And this has to do about drones how Robert?

Thanks for your concern But I expect you have missed many of the things that have been said by the OntarioACHI directors and how they have attacked many Ontario inspectors and posted a large amount of incorrect information.
I ask you to please read this string for a small sample of how they operate .
Thanks … Roy

I recommend all Ontario NACHI members read this and form their own opinion on OntarioACHI .

Oh My! Must have just had a Full moon! It’s that time of the month…again! sigh!

I’m new here and in Edmonton. I spoke with the city bylaw in regards to drones as it was part of my business plan. As of less then a year ago for Edmonton you needed to have commercial insurance specific to operation of a drone for business purposes. You must submit a permit(same permit as hot air ballon) a week in advance. Not closer than 100m to any property that as not involved with the survey. If someone or some thing passed in the 100m radius you must cease operation. Needless to say this pretty much stopped me in my tracks and have given up on the idea now.

Same players, just a different sand box.

Welcome Bryce glad you could make it .

Too bad you left OntarioACHI I do not think they have a discipline Director stay since you left.