Can the Electrical Receptacle for an electric stove be installed on the floor behind the stove or does it have to be on the wall behind the stove?
Is it an approved 240v floor type receptacle? If not write it up.
How do you tell if its a rated floor type receptacle?
Start with what you know, and then look up the specs.
Is it a flush mounted receptacle, a surface receptacle, etc.
This works with bottom on the floor:
Thanks. That is what’s there now and the stove is concaved at the bottom and can literally only put the receptacle on the floor and no higher. So I have been going back and forth with another inspector, Him saying it cannot be placed on the floor.
It is what it is. What implications would this cause for the client?
What authority does he reference to make that statement? If you Google “240v floor receptacle” you will find all kinds of outlets designed for that application. The answer to your question about how will you know, is that the correct unit will have a UL listing and should be stamped with such (might not be visible after installation). If you have an electrical supply near by look at items they stock. (HD or Lowes have limited inventory.)
Is it “in” the floor or “at the floor level” on the wall? There are many range/stove receptacles that you can mount either on the wall or the floor, here is one:
It is mounted on the floor and not flush mount.
If it looks anything like what Larry or I posted most likely it’s approved to be mounted on the floor.
Better question is, why are you going back and forth with some “other” inspector? You can always ask for the source and or his reasoning for why it cannot be… if it’s just his opinion, I’m sure you know how that goes.
If you really want to know 100% you have to check with the stove’s instructions because they will dictate exactly where the receptacle should be mounted and in what area they cannot be. Then you need to verify with the model of the receptacle and their manufacturer/UL listing. Doing this, however, goes well beyond SOP. You should have a general idea and that usually is enough
Nothing wrong with mounting it on the floor. It needs to be on, at, or near the floor anyway to comply with the NEC when used as the disconnecting means which is typical for cord and plug connected ovens.
422.33(B) Connection at the Rear Base of a Range. For cord-and-plug-connected household electric ranges, an attachment plug and receptacle connection at the rear base of a range, accessible from the front by removal of a drawer, shall meet the intent of 422.33(A).
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It was actually a city inspector in the area I performed a home inspection and he failed the occupancy license because of the stove plug being mounted to the floor. I just had to say whatever and paid to get it attached to the wall which was super easy. Unfortunately you cant argue with a city inspector. They sometimes look at us like rookies, plus they have far more rules then we do when it comes to what they require.
What is that? Do you mean C of O? certificate of occupancy? Why would “you” have to pay? You are not a code inspector, your inspection is not supposed to determine legality or occupancy. I hope you realize this. It should be part of your contract. Instead of arguing, I would ask the inspector to cite code and or regulation he called out the item based on. They are code enforcers, they nornally are not allowed to base their inspection on mere opinion. It almost sounds like something is missing from your “story”.
Yes sorry certificate of occupancy. What happened is that I did a pre-inspection for the client and then when I got finished he had then realized the city had to do a occupancy test. That inspector reported back to the property owner saying I missed the stove plug and that it should have been written up as a non efficient place to put the plug and that it should have been placed on the wall and not ground. So the property owner came to me and questioned why I had written it up as okay and then got mad and wanted me to fix it the way the occupancy inspector wanted it. Either way it was an easy fix and its done now. I guess I had just dealt with some miserable people that day.
Did you specifically claim the plug being on the floor is okay?
I don’t know how it works where you are… but here the inspector must put anything like that in writing. I would request this from the “property owner” and then go to the inspector and have a “friendly” discussion.
Anyways… I hope you can learn from this experience and adjust your “reporting” and PIA to avoid this in the future. It does not matter if you are doing pre listing inspection or a home inspection, you must explain to the client that your inspection is not a code inspection, it is not an inspection that will determine occupancy. You will “almost always” miss things that can fail a code inspection if a code inspector comes behind you (because you’re not performing a code inspection), this plug is just a small example.
You’re contract should specifically state that.
I’m not sure what you missed. Unless there is a local code saying otherwise the guy who called out the receptacle mounted to the floor is incorrect. As a code inspector he should have tried to find a code section that was violated.