Ray,
You prove yourself to be a big man behing the keyboard. I may be a pigmy, but from what I hear, I apparently tower over you.
Nice try.
Not knowing you personally, I can only imagine that you are small minded.
Next time you post via alias, try and keep up a smidgeon of veiled secrecy. Now, please remove your post.
Ray,
You have a twisted sense of what transpired. I sincerely hope that your felow Canadians see your rants for the self-serving dribble they are, and start to question your former words of wisdom as far as things “truthful” regarding the NCP.
Admittedly, I know little abot it, and have criticized it in the past.
As to your latest load, keep in mind that the initial e-mail was constructed from a post on the NACHI BB. It was sent to me by your friend. You felt the need, as you always do, to chime in. We went back and forth a bit. Then YOU DECIDED to take my response to you, and post it on this message board. I asked you to remove it. Others asked you to remove it. You refused. You became defiant. You became belligerant.
And you were removed. Your posts then became more inflamatory and destructive. So much so that the adminstrators of this asset felt the need to not only remove the inflamatory and ourtageous posts, but every previous Ray Wand post that existed.
Now, you are hacking a corporate asset. Let’s just add it to the list of irrational actions.
Like I said, you are a man without an island.
Nobody really cares. Get a life.
Joe I am sorry you are ethically challenged. You need to control your juvenile temper. Even more abhorent it the fact you called Roy and let into him. Yes sir you really are winner for a Pigmy!
Line a s s, I’ll take that under advisement!
Joe It is so unfortunate that things have escalated this far.
Your continuing adding fuel to the fire does no good .
We should all be trying to get paddling in the right direction.
Many errors have been made ,
I am sure we all wish we could go back to Feb first and do things differently.
None of this helps NACHI or the NACHI members .
Decisions have to be made to try and stop the bleeding.
So far we have lost two members that we know of .
We all know your choice was wrong on removing Raymond as the letters he posted is no different then all the Jokes posted on the NACHI site by me and other members.
http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthread.php?p=330157#post330157
I do hope we can soon put this all behind us and carry on .
…Cookie
Roy,
You stirred the pot last evening. Dont comer here this morning like some “healer”. Want it to go away? Tell your buddy to knock it off. He is NOT coming back to this org anytime soon. His insults add fuel to the fire. Your obsession over your twisted sense of injustice will never allow any of us to move forward.
It was not handled poorly. The matter will soon be in the hands of a Canadian attorney. You can thenk yourself and your buddy for what is about to transpire. I held off on any of this naively believing that you’d both let it go. Now, your *** will likely be dragged into this. Sometimes, you need to just keep quiet. I have absolutely no regrets.
Finally, and for your twisted sense of history, Mr Cooke, here are the header of the email string which YOU initiated, and who was copied and when.
FIRST E-MAIL TO ME. IT WAS FROM ROY TO ME, WTH COPY TO RAY.
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To:
“Joe Farsetta” <jjf10965@yahoo.com>
CC:
“Raymond Wand” <rwand@rogers.com>
Subject:
Sorry you are wrong
Date:
Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:48:03 -0500
SECOND E-MAIL WITH ME AS A RECIPIENT, CRAFTED BY RAY WAND
Date:
Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:04:44 -0500
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CC:
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Subject:
Re: Sorry you are wrong
AFTER A BRIEF RESPONSE, THIS WAS THE 3RD E-MAIL I RECEIVED. IT WAS CRAFTED BY RAY (SEE HEADER BELOW). NOTE THE COPY TO ROY.
Date:
Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:16:02 -0500
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Subject:
Re: Sorry you are wrong
AFTER A BRIEF RESPONSE TO RAY, A 4TH EMAIL RECEIVED FROM RAY, WITH NO COPY TO ROY. AT THIS POINT, RAY CHANGED HIS TACT.
Date:
Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:08:27 -0500
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Subject:
Re: Sorry you are wrong
THIS IS THE HEADER OF THE FINAL E-MAIL RECEIVED FROM RAY WAND… IT WAS NOT A PART OF HIS “POSTING” ON THE NACHI BB. IT WAS RAW, THOUGH I DIDN’T REALLY CARE ABOUT IT. PLEASE NOTE THAT THERE WERE NO COPIES TO ROY.
Date:
Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:33:02 -0500
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Subject:
Re: Sorry you are wrong
You initiated this mess, and continue to do so. You are as culpible as Mr. Wand, both from a legal and ethical standpoint.
You are not a great healer. Your actions are divisive. It’s plain to see.
Yup from a Yahoo alright!
Roy,
You stirred the pot last evening. Dont come here this morning like some “healer”. Want it to go away? Tell your buddy to knock it off. He is NOT coming back to this org anytime soon. His insults add fuel to the fire. Your obsession over your twisted sense of injustice will never allow any of us to move forward.
It was not handled poorly. The matter will soon be in the hands of a Canadian attorney. You can thank yourself and your buddy for what is about to transpire. I held off on any of this naively believing that you’d both let it go. Now, your *** will likely be dragged into this. Sometimes, you need to just keep quiet. I have absolutely no regrets.
Finally, and for your twisted sense of history, Mr Cooke, here are the header of the email string which YOU initiated, and who was copied and when.
FIRST E-MAIL TO ME. IT WAS FROM ROY TO ME, WTH COPY TO RAY.
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“Joe Farsetta” <jjf10965@yahoo.com>
CC:
“Raymond Wand” <rwand@rogers.com>
Subject:
Sorry you are wrong
Date:
Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:48:03 -0500
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Date:
Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:04:44 -0500
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Subject:
Re: Sorry you are wrong
AFTER A BRIEF RESPONSE, THIS WAS THE 3RD E-MAIL I RECEIVED. IT WAS CRAFTED BY RAY (SEE HEADER BELOW). NOTE THE COPY TO ROY.
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Re: Sorry you are wrong
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Re: Sorry you are wrong
THIS IS THE HEADER OF THE FINAL E-MAIL RECEIVED FROM RAY WAND… IT WAS NOT A PART OF HIS “POSTING” ON THE NACHI BB. IT WAS RAW, THOUGH I DIDN’T REALLY CARE ABOUT IT. PLEASE NOTE THAT THERE WERE NO COPIES TO ROY.
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Re: Sorry you are wrong
You initiated this mess, and continue to do so. You are as culpible as Mr. Wand, both from a legal and ethical standpoint.
You are not a great healer. Your actions are divisive. It’s plain to see.
Finally, a response to your last post:
What a laugh. I add no fuel to the fire. YOU DO.
All initiated and perpetuated by the actions of both you and Ray
Ray was given the opportunity many times. he refused and you stoked the fire.
Decisions were made and will stand. Ray Wand was expelled from the organization. Your actions are not helpng the situation.
Hey Joe, isn’t it time for you to go back and edit your posts?
I know I sent you emails and that they were from rwand@rogers. That is not in dispute! Just what are you trying to prove beyond a resonable doubt that you are bankrupt morally and ethically?
We have a big fire burning and adding fuel is not helping .
I think we need to find a way to put out the fire and heal the burns.
Soon I hope …Cookie
How can you expell a member who never paid for his membership? If anything all that was accomplished was the removal of a non member by a egotistical maniac who got caught making false accusations in an email?
Joe you really are discrediting no one but yourself.
In the meantime why is Frank Crayola Carrio allowed to use Nachi resources under the gaze of the ESOP to send out foul messages?
Huston you have a problem!
Ray,
Have a nice life. You’re done here as a member.
You are marginalized as a non-member. You have lowered yourself even further. Your posts have degraded to the point of being spam.
Now you are hacking this message board.
Like the child who presses his face against the glass from the sidewalk, looking at others on the inside of a fancy restaurant, you’re self-induced expulsion is truly sad.
Joe have your attorney call me, I would like to speak to someone who is ethically motivated, cool, calm and collected unlike you! Besides I want to talk to him to fill him in while its on your tab!
My people will call your people, I’m sure.
Ya Joe, it will be most interesting. Maybe you should book hotel accomdation in Toronto now so that you can be assured a room which will no doubt be the trial of the century for you and Nachi!
I love Pigmy’s!
And they love you.
Well I am happy that a Pigmy loves me!
Goodbye, Ray
Hey have you seen Michael Larsons flashlight?