Fire & ZZZZZZ????

Originally Posted By: dmacy
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I was at my brothers for thanksgiving and while watching elf for the 2nd time with my 5 year old I noticed that his wood burning stove had melted his plastic cover plates. The stove temp was 350 degrees.


Is there any code that says if there can or cant be outlets located within a certain distance of the stove?

With that kind of temperature I would think that this could be a safety condition. The stove was to hot to check the wires. (And I ate to many elf cookies)

Dave


Originally Posted By: Joey D’Adamo
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There certainly are rules about recepticals and their distance to electric baseboards, so I am inclined to say that there probably are in this case too.


I'm sure one of the well-seasoned experts will chime in soon.


Originally Posted By: pabernathy
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dmacy,


Basically the NEC does not directly address this issue as in many cases the rule is any space 2 feet or more has to have recept.

Now placing a recept on either side of a fireplace is common and usualy because of the firebox and trim out you have a proper clearance....this generally falls under the 6" clearance from combus. items near the fireplace....

But as for the recept itself....it simply can't be in a place that is subject to physical damage....and being too close to the box could cause this....but as a ruling i do not believe the NEC addresses this...other than protection and so on from physcal damage.

Also it is important to note that in the NEC it refers to recepts. not bein gover baseboards in a FPN...as most manufactures will express the mandate to not have a recept over the baseboard heating unit in their instructions and we know that if the manufacturer calls for something that it takes priority in the ruling.

P.S. I should add to this that in many cases the recept. located on the end of a baseboard unit can count as the required recept. in the ruling as it applied to 210.52.....so keep that in mind.....also it CAN'T be on the baseboard circuit itself....it needs to be part of the actual room circuit to comply and counted in the 210.52 application.

Hope that helps....I do hear alot that people say no recepts can be above a baseboard....but other than adoptions by local rulings it is pretty much standardized by the manufactures and not the NEC which refers to it in both 210 and 424 articles as a footnote refering to the manufacturers instructions for the baseboard unit...


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Originally Posted By: jhagarty
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http://www.cdc.gov/nasd/docs/d000101-d000200/d000132/d000132.html


http://www.cdc.gov/nasd/docs/d001001-d001100/d001052/d001052.html


Originally Posted By: pdickerson
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I am with JH. I would bet there is a clearance issue with the wood stove. I always check the sticker on wood stoves I inspect (if they are new enough to have one) and make sure that the listed clearances are maintained.


Originally Posted By: pabernathy
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Never said their was not a clearance issue…that has to do with the codes that apply to the clearances of the fireplace and stove itself as stated. My words were in regards to the NEC…it does not reflect a code governing the requested question.



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