Built in MSX is cool, however I am not sure about only having a 9hz rating in this day and age. I know why they did it, but 9hz is 9hz. Which leads to no video.
At the end of the day, I wouldn’t recommend any of these for you guys in particular. Giving up the marketing ability of video just isn’t worth it. These have their place, I just don’t think they do in the HI community.
E40BX and T420 still my picks in the FLIR line for HI.
From what I know, all FLIR cams now come standard with MSX.
Jason Kaylor
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AC Tool Supply
Net Zero Tools
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Charley and I have effectively used IR video in the past, but I do not foresee that many home inspectors making infrared videos in their home inspections.
There too busy getting out of there and getting their reports done in 20 minutes…
I haven’t seen any of these cameras yet, but low refresh rates can be a big pain in the butt…
Yeah they have it now, however the E30 and E30BX are now discontinued.
I wish they would have left those cameras in the line up…I mean, I totally get it, but I would have like to seen a higher HZ camera still available in the sub $3k part of their line up. Now you have to go up to the E40/E40BX to get to the higher HZ cameras. Adding video to the E30/E30BX would have been a better answer (while still leaving off the Android/IOS integration), IMO, than discontinuing it. They should have always had the Meterlink feature on the E30/E30BX just because they can up sell a meter or two for it. That always seemed silly to me that they left Meterlink off the E30/E30BX and basically cut their own throat.
At the end of the day, the E30 really lacked anyway and the E40BX was, and still is, the best sub $5.5k (it is $3995.00 list) building diagnostics camera in their line up.
The one thing I am surprised no one has brought up on the new E series is the FOV. 45 degrees!!! wow. While this will increase the spot size substantially (2x basically), you guys in the building diag. world don’t really care about that. Wider angle allows more target in your image. When you are looking at large targets, like you guys are, that FOV is super helpful.
Hi Jason, I was going to ask you the same regarding the firmware update. Do you know which version it is for the bx series imagers to get the MSX? I checked and it looks like the latest update I can find via FLIR’s site is:
**FLIR Exx v2.23.14 Update Pack
Last updated: April 23, 2013
**I am assuming there is a later update or am I incorrect? Thank you in advance for the assistance Jason.
Don’t do it yet Tim. I am working on something to see what I can get done for you guys.
MSX is cool and all, but it isn’t a game changer by any means…now if you are doing a ton of panels then yeah, it is a pretty big deal for cutting down reporting time.
By the way, I just found out the new E series ( E4, E5, E6, E8 ) does not have range and span control In the case of the E6, that is a little surprising. In the case of the E8 it is shocking, to say the least.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they rethink this going forward on the E6 and E8 and maybe even bring back the E30/E30BX. That means the entry level Flir cam with range and span control is now the E40/E40BX.
I’d go without in our field before buying one of these new offerings from FLIR. 9Hz refresh rate?!?!? Man that would be PAINFULLY slow!
Too many important features sacrificed on these.
Here are some examples of auto vs manual range and span. The two images that only show two cups actually have both cups in the image. All three images were taking from basically the same spot and in less than a minute’s time. The level of detail on those two images (manual range/span) is pretty obvious. The inside of the cups where the water isn’t touching really shows the detail vs the image with both cups are showing. The gradient across in the inside of the hot cup only image where the water isn’t touching is obvious as well as the very small water particles on the inside of the cold cup only image where the water isn’t touching.
These images are pretty tuned down because I took them on my Galaxy Note 2 with the Flir Tools app.
In addition to David’s images and Bill’s comments, you can really see how auto only range and span is really kind of brutal.
In the cold cup only image, you can see the hot cup, but not where you think you would see it.
In the case of the E6, that is a little surprising. In the case of the E8 it is shocking, to say the least.
