Originally Posted By: jstevens
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hi john what is a eifs what kind of inspection thanks jim
hi john what is a eifs what kind of inspection thanks jim
Originally Posted By: jmertins
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it refers to an outside coating, usually acrylic, that looks like stucco. It also invoves polystyrene board as an insulator. What type of inspection is it? It is part of the outside inspection of the property.
Hope that helps.
John
Originally Posted By: jstevens
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john thanks as you must know im new but learnin fast .
Originally Posted By: ecrofutt
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While E&O insurance is a good business practice, I see no reason to tie insurance to licensing. Real Estate Agents are about the only ones who do. I’ve checked medical, legal, and a few other professions in several states. Very seldom are the two tied together with a requirement for having insurance to get a license.
Before doing this search, I thought all attorneys, doctors, engineers, etc, etc, were REQUIRED to have E&O as that is what I'd always heard. Boy, was I surprised.
I disagree with making grandfather requirements stiff enough to put any currently practicing HI out of business. No way. Especially given the practices I've seen some of the long term guys engage in. I do agree with making future requirments stiffer, but have always seen the need for an alternate path, thru education, to the oft quoted internships. Remember what happened with the New Jersey guys tried to find somebody to hire them as an intern (or associate whatever they called it.) They couldn't. Medical, engineering, legal, etc, interns get paid (at least a little) for that work. Are you willing to pay people to intern for you. Very few, if any, in New Jersey were willing to pay.
Get the licensing in first without putting anybody out of business. OK, I'd grant you the requirement that EVERYONE take a recognized test (there are more than one) but the objection to that test requirement sure doesn't come from the new guys. It comes from a lot of the old (in terms of HI, not age) guys who are afraid that they can't prove their proficiency.
Stiffen the requirements over time. Just like most other licensed professions have. They've just been around a lot longer than HI.
James Stevens:
More about EIFS -
Exterior Insulated Finish Systems at:
Exterior Design Institute:
http://www.exterior-design-inst.com/
EIFS Industry Member Association:
http://www.eima.com/
EIFS Inspection Protocol:
http://www.kinsella.com/eifs/inspection.shtml
AWCI - Associaton of the Wall & Ceiling Industries EIFS Education and Certification Programs Center:
http://www.awci.org/eifshome.htm
Those are just a few sources of information on EIFS. There are many more.
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Erby Crofutt
B4U Close Home Inspections
Georgetown, Kentucky
www.b4uclose.com
Originally Posted By: hgordon
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We need to remember that the reason that the law is being considered is to “protect the consumer”…or so they say…I believe ASHI and FABI simply want to cut out competition.
That being said, E&O would protect the buyers but the cost would become really high as every claim would go to them. Remember deductibles are 2k.
I agree with Erby...we need to gradually increase the requirements for NEW HI's.
Originally Posted By: jmertins
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Harvey,
Things have sure quieted down in the last few weeks. What do you feel is our next step in the bill process? Have we defeated the purposed bill for this year? I would like to make a difference and be part of the solution to see that it is done correctly and fairly.
Any info would be great. I have been watching the senate board but all seems quiet now.
John
Originally Posted By: sguardino
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Harvey,
Please keep me posted regarding the Florida legislation and the licensing bill. I have made a few calls to legislatures in my area, one who is a personal friend of mine.
I am willing to drive to Tallahassee if needed, to reinforce this issue and appear in person.
I am against this bill, and any grandfathering at all. My feeling are that if you are in business already you should be grandfathered, period.
Most of the HI’s already practicing have a proven track record, small or large. Those who do not or screwup will slowly go out of business. Word gets out real quick in this industry.
I will continue to monitor this issue and make some more calls.
I have not been active on this board or business wise due to health issues. But they have been addressed and I’m now ready to go. So please keep me informed.
Thanking you in advance.
Steve
Originally Posted By: dkeough
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Hi guys
The bill is dead for this year. The pols want a revised bill on the desk of the speaker of the house on Jan. 1. I went to the state legislature meeting in Pensacola with Nick, Joe B and his wife Jeane and others on Tuesday. They have come up with some good ideas which are going to be discussed and try to be formed into some type of regulation. Joe has a post in the General Inspection section that everyone should look at.
Thanks
Dave Keough
Originally Posted By: dbowers
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, etc, etc.
NONE were REQUIRED to CARRY E&O Insurance to GET a license. I discovered some real Estate Franchises MADE their FRANCHISEES carry it, but it was not REQUIRED for a RE license. Some Hospitals MADE doctors carry it to practice in that Hospital, but it was not REQUIRED to get a medical license.
I was on the A$$I web site and saw a prominent A$$I member bragging about how his State made everybody, EVEN Engineers carry it so HI's should have to carry it TOO (to protect the public). My cousin lives there and is an Engineer. I sent him a copy of the POSTING and asked if that was true. He emailed me back saying twas NOT SO. DUMBIES EXIST.
Originally Posted By: Rex Wilkins
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I have been following this topic closely as I do Home inspections Here in Florida.
Although I'm state licensed Pest Control Company I'm also Certified Operator for Termites, Pest Control, and Operate a Pool Service and Home Inspection as part of my business.
Home Inspections are just a small percentage of my yearly income, and I usually only do them for my current customers. So that being said I still do not agree with having to be required to do the 90 hours schooling and 250 inspections just to be qualified to take test. I have over 20 years in Building trades commercial and residential building from footer to roofing.
In my current occupation of pest control I carry a "Million Dollars" Insurance Liability which includes Errors and Omissions as required by my state licensing board. State requirements are less but protection is important. [url]http://www.floridatermitehelp.org/aes-ent/public_html/_forms/pcpckt.pdf [/url]
My insurance is based on total revenue for the year... it goes up each year! We pay in march for State pest control licenses (each), in June for Certified Operators Certificate, Continuing education per category, and for Four Occupational Licenses in September. At present time I spend over $12000. per year just to wallpaper the wall with permission to run my business.
I feel Verification of a person's qualification to do a chosen field is important. I feel Insurance is Protection enough for homeowner as those who screw up can't get insurance won't be here long.
If you wonder how the state verifies insurance? Our state licensing board verified each time issuing renewal yearly and insurance company faxes them if you are cancelled.
I think this website is structured greatly... Looking forward to visiting often and Joining soon.
Thanks for your input and Help,
REX
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Rex Wilkins
www.rexpest.com
info@rexpest.com
352-684-3406
Originally Posted By: Blaine Wiley
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Our insurance certificate has to be sent to Charlotte County each year by the previous policy expiration date, otherwise the license is suspended until received.
Originally Posted By: rdriggers
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What is the point of being grandfather in. I think that all states need to come up with an actual physical inspection, not a written test. Any body can study a book and pass a written test, but get them in a real HI and watch them scratch there head, because they won’t have a clue on what’s going on. Who is to say that 250 HI is the minimum requirement. There are good inspectors and bad ones. I just started my own HI business about a month and a half ago, and already completed 48 error free inspections. I took no schooling classes, just worked as an apprentice for a friend part time for two years. I have two years experience in the construction and electrical fields. I carry insurance just incase of a simple mistake. I think the state should set standards for HI, but not set minimum requirements to be a HI.
Originally Posted By: jwortham
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Not trying to rain on your parade, but they are only error-free inspections AS OF NOW.
This could change tomorrow if one of your clients discovers an error.
Remember, they have YEARS to find out if you missed something in a 3-4 hour inspection!
Originally Posted By: sbyrnes
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any updates?
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All Corners Home Inspections, Inc
Serving Pasco, Hernando, N. Pinellas & N. Hillsborough counties
Originally Posted By: Nick Gromicko
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Yes, FAPHI has proposed legislation and we are having an open-to-all free meeting. Please attend: http://www.nachi.org/faphi.htm
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Nick Gromicko
Founder
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