The “Coalition” bill is the bill that really needs to be put down hard as it is a vile document that attacks our basic civil rights and erodes personal freedoms guaranteed to everyone by the Constitution.
The “Coalition" has overstepped its mandate as a representative of home inspectors and has aligned itself with those who would trade our constitutional sovereignty as citizens for a license to inspect homes, which I am sure we can all agree is a very bad deal. There is no legitimate reason for home inspectors to have to relinquish our birthrights in the process of becoming licensed. Furthermore “The Collation” and their bill should be summarily dismissed out of hand for even entertaining the notion that somehow our civil rights are negotiable and that we would in some way be agreeable to such idiocy.
We as concerned home inspectors should with all haste ban together and with one voice proclaim our sovereignty first as citizens and then as home inspectors to our true Representatives in Tallahassee. Every legal method should be exploited and used to thwart “The Coalition" bill from going forward and if not here & now at the legislative level then tomorrow in the courts. I have already had contact and sent a copy of this bill to the ACLU outlining the the erosion of constitutional rights therein and am willing to be a test case should this nonsense not be stopped here and need to be redressed in the courts.
I rather have the Coalition Bill than the Dempsy Bill if i had to choose between the two. I believe all inspectors in business at the time the bill takes effect should be allowed to stay in business.
Yes, and those who are thinking of backing that bill should also have a printing press available to print the money that will be necessary to successfully get a bill that attacks all Americans through both houses and onto the Governor’s desk.
My suggestion… find another bill that does not render you a 2nd class citizen in your own state just because you have decided that you want to be a home inspector, you are worth far more then that.
I agree with you, however, the Demsey Bill would shut down the home inspectors that lack the 250 inspection make it so they would have to find an inspector to bring them onboard to complete their 250 inspections, this will be very hard for many inspectors to do since most are 1-2 man companies and may have no intrest in bringing anyone onboard. If my interpretation of the bill is correct.
I would never suggest backing the Dempsey Bill but I will share that there is no real backing for the “The Coalition" bill outside of the Coalition either. Furthermore, it went over like a fart in church when it was presented at the FABI meeting earlier this month and I have also heard no one speak kindly of it locally within ASHI.
On the other hand we have representation and a voice within “The Coalition", why not start there and get them to remove the drug testing clause that renders this bill unpalatable and impassable?
Mark my word moving forward with this bill as it is written guarantees passage of the Dempsey bill and once again flaming defeat for “The Coalition".
I understand your point Joe and i hope everyone can meet on middle ground. I do think drug testing is pointless. I know of no other licenses that require a licensees to take a drug test. With my other job i am around morphine and several other controled substances and i do not have to take a drug test, realtors, attorneys, doctors ECT do not have to take drug test as part of their license. I feel individuale employeers should be allowed to require a test just not the state. However i rather take a piss test than see inspectors who have worked hard to grow their business put out. Hopefully we can pass a bill that will work for everyone. The coalition bill is almost there in my opinion. I hope they discard the drug testing requirements then many more people will support the bill and push it through
Joe Burkeson is 1000% correct that…when it comes to collecting bodily fluids from home inspectors in order to allow them to work…there is no middle ground. It is more than pointless. It is wrong.
You have a third alternative, Mr. Hawley, and that is to keep the laws in your state exactly as they are.
There is nothing to say that those who endorse the Dempsey Bill just to avoid drug testing will not find drug testing added to it in committee. Likewise, the “coalition” bill could have the 250 minimum inspections added to it as a compromise, 15 minutes before being voted on and approved.
No bill at all is what you can safely endorse.
Just remember how chaos sunk the last effort to legislate Florida, and model your attacks against these bills, accordingly.
Good people are on both sides of the issue, so keep the attacks from being personal ones. Concentrate on the following factors:
The Florida consumer is not a part of the equation and is ignorant to any of these licensing measures. None of them truly represents his interests.
Endorsing either or any legislative measure as it is presently written is like playing Russian Roulette, for you do not know what you bill will look like by the time it reaches the Governor’s desk. Much of what is now contained in the Dempsey Bill was added…at the last minute…to the previous bill that so many fought to have vetoed.
The “coalition” does not represent most of the home inspectors in Florida. It only represents those who want legislation and not even all of them, as evidenced by the presence of competing legislation. Be sure to let your legislators know this. [NOTE] NACHI’s member that attends these meetings represents this “coalition” to you, but not NACHI to the “coalition”. Be sure that everyone that hears from the “coalition” hears from you to this important fact that FLORIDA’S LARGEST HOME INSPECTION ASSOCIATION DOES NOT ENDORSE THE ACTIVITIES OF THIS COALITION. That, too, is a charade.
Fight the good fight. You will continue to prevail…if you are vigilant.
James is right on the money with this. To try and “settle” with the least of two evils is what I described earlier about acquiesces. Running scared and attempting to find a compromise is not the answer. I could “learn to live” with jock itch but I dang sure am not willing to. Why put up with something just to “get by”. Neither bill is doing what it proports to do and is not “looking out for the consumer”. That is a phony statement and everyone with an ounce of sense knows it. Licensing for the sake of licensing is wrong. Lobbyist are in it for the MONEY. They get paid to push for things that they do not care one wit about. They get paid to weed the bills thru the various committees and sell it to legislators. Most legislators do not know beans from wild owl droppings about Home inspections. We have gone thru this every year for almost a decade or more. Now is not the time for fence sitting. To clear up perhaps a misconception. FAPHI is anti-licensing… NOT looking for a license we can live with. If licensing would actually do what its supporters claim it may be different. The history of licensing does not support their position. It has been a dismal failure in almost every case, especially when it is being pushed thru by those who stand to gain financially from the passage. As I stated earlier also…neither of these bills stand up to the light of day in regards to the Sunrise Act. I stress again…you can not cherry pick what you like about the Act and apply it to your situation. It is all or nothing. I am not peeing in a bottle just so someone I I’ve never met can stay in business. That is not the answer. You need to be prepared to put your money where your mouth is. Going after or digging up dirt on a legislator is a waste of time, effort and the price of a stamp. If that worked their opponents would have and probably did try that during their election. That is cheap political tricks and muck raking. Use the Sunrise Act!!! That is the law and they have to obey the law just like you and I. Do not take your eye off the ball. Threats of exposing something on them is useless and wasted effort. Besides, can you possibly spend that much time trying to dig up dirt on every legislator? Anything you find will have as much impact as a fart in a hurricane.
I think no bill at all would be GREAT. If it is not broken why try to fix it. The market will weed the shaddy home inspectors out, and the successful ones that provide a quality home inspection and look out for their clients best intrest will continue to be successful. It is apparently impossible to find a bill everyone is happy with, but it does sound from what i have read that sooner or later a bill will be passed, let’s hope it is a fair for all.
Doug, i hope the Sunrise Act will work in our favor. How come other businesses have become licensed and not protected from the Sunrise Act? Is the main reason because of consumer complaints? I have read it several times and understand it for the most part. Some of the legal language i dont fully understand. I am trying to figure how to present it. Should I just write our Reps, Senator, Governor ECT and explaine to them I am aware of the Sunrise Act and feel the bill is unfair to all? I am not to politically savey and do not pretend to be. I am learning. Thank you for your input.
That is part of my point in this post. WE all need to get politcally saavy. (One way to improve is stop telling people you aren’t saavy in the ways of politics, as a starter) Its Christmas, spend the holidays with your family, stop worrying about this for the holidays and relax and enjoy the rest of the week-end. Fretting over this could ruin the holidays for you. There will be time later. Im outta here to go visit some family. Everyone have a Merry Christmas and a Happy and prosperous New Year.
Now thats a positive post with proven experience on this subject from ole bushy;) … Just follow his actions on cmi posts and it will just go away or get watered down so everybody will qualifiy nachi style.
Your dues to the ASHI Candidate diploma mill (just send cash and Shazam!) are why our industry prices are so depressed. Your paying of your dues are what is watering down your fellow member’s profits. Stop.
Cha-ching…