Mathew,
The Sunrise Act has not always been here. Years ago and before the Sunrise Act, many industries were licensed that probably did not need to be. Since its acceptance there are many cases of attempts to regulate industries that were defeated by the Governor’s veto pen and he cites the reasons as non-compliance with…guess what? The Sunrise Act. Other times he states that the proposed law fails to meet the criteria of the Act and would result in people going out of business or barring people from entering the business. At least one other case in 2004 he vetoed a bill licensing genetic counselors. That one he listed several reasons why the bill fails to pass the criteria. So just because a bill makes it through both houses, does not mean it is a lost cause. In that particular case Gov. Bush said the bill’s claim did not meet the substantial harm criteria and it was vague and speculative. Hmmmm. doesn’t that sound familiar? He went on to say the current system was adequate. And finally, he said the cost effectiveness and economic impact of the regulation is not necessarily favorable to consumers, who may experience increases in insurance premiums. You have to look at any proposed legislation from every angle. They claim it helps consumers. We say it is going to raise the prices for consumers plus flood the market with hundreds if not thousands of new barely qualified “licensed” inspectors. Use the existing history of what has happened in other licensed States as an example.
I like the CMI program as it was originally designed and implemented. My posts are not targetted toward the CMI program…just its current president who, in my opinion, is watering it down and tayloring it to fit in with his other wares he sells through Inspection Depot.
I think the Florida think stinks BUT for any of you young bloods that worry about passing the pee test, I’m setting up a new sideline business.
Clean pee - $600 a bottle. I think this is gonna be my retirement income. Lets see - if I just provide 4 bottles a week, I’ll have a decent retirement income and less stress than crawling through crawlspaces and fighting snakes.
Man this licensing crap could be real lucrative for us old guys.
That’s the Joe B I remember. I’m loving it. Once again, Joe proves he is the wordsmith. Bravo.
Guys, remember: as to FABI, you cant change the spots on a lepoard.
Look to FABIs president and past presidents. Look to their current board of directors. Look for their charter which requires members to support legislative efforts. Look for commonalities. Then look past that.
Look at how the CMI proposals seemingly catered to FABIs whim. Why, I asked, was FABI a part of CMI, specifically, when there are 30 other state orgs out there with little of no involvement. The silence was deafening.
Some of you think this is about control on my part. It isnt and never was. I have the ability to smell a rat, and that’s all. Florida licensing is in the hands of Florida NACHI inspectors. Its where it belongs, absent of outside influence. Steer your own boat, guys. Its your livlihoods at stake, not mine.
Florida NACHI is the 1000 pound gorilla now. We are the sleeping giant. We are also fortunate enough to have some really smart folks in our Florida contingent.
My advice is to quickly get organized, and to kick a$$ and take names…
How with you needing 250 inspections.
Think a little
Real estate is slow in some areas – getting 250 (ASHI number) inspections could be hard unless one charges a real low $$. In some cases an inspector might have to travel to another city where the homes are selling to get the numbers. In some cases it might be easies to take the education courses than to try to get grandfathered
In short we have two possible bills that are bad
Lets not try to change them lets try to get them killed
Jay the coalition does not speak for anyone but the people that you have spoken with
Who are these people by name??
WE NEED MORE INFORMATION not things like “the horses mouth”
rlb
Florida Licenses that currently don’t require their holder to piss in a cup:
Professional Licenses
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Architects and Interior Designers
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Asbestos Consultants
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Athlete Agents
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Auctioneers
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Acupuncture
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Athletic Training
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Audiology
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Barbers
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Boxing
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Building Code Administrators and Inspectors
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Certified Nursing Assistants
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Certified Public Accountants
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Chiropractic Medicine
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Clinic Registration
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Clinical Laboratory Personnel
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Clinical Social Work
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Community Association Managers
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Construction Industry Contractors
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Cosmetologists
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Dental Hygiene
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Dentistry
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Dietetics
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Electrical Contractors
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Electrolysis
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Employee Leasing Companies
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Funeral Directors and Embalmers
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Geologists
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Harbor Pilots
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Hearing Aid Specialists
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Landscape Architects
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Marriage and Family Therapy
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Medical Physicists
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Medicine
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Mental Health Counseling
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Midwifery (Licensed)
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Nursing
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Nursing Home Administrators
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Nutrition
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Orthotists
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Osteopathic Medicine
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Pharmacy
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Physical Therapy
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Physician Assistants
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Podiatric Medicine
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Prosthetists
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Psychology
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Real Estate
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Respiratory Care
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School Psychology
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Speech Language
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Surveyors and Mappers
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Talent Agents
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Veterinarians
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Investment Advisors
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Broker / Dealers
Business Licenses and Permits -
Agriculture and Consumer Services
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Alcoholic Beverages and Tobacco
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Building Permits
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Child Care Centers
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Collection Agencies
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Consumer Finance Companies
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Electric and Natural Gas
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Health Facilities Licensure
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Health Related Business Permits
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Hotels
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Land Sales, Condominiums and Mobile Homes
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Mortgage Brokering and Lending
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Motor Vehicle Dealer License
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Notary Public
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Pari-Mutuel Wagering
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Restaurants
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Retail Installment Sellers and Sales Finance
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Telecommunications
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Waste and Wastewater
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Financial Institutions
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Securities Offerings
The best of all of course is the Florida “Concealed Weapon or Firearm License” (CWL), no piss test is required for this license either. The state of Florida grants a license to carry loaded firearms in public without drug screening, who would have thunk?
As far as I can tell there are only a few classes of folks who must subject themselves to the degradation of drug testing and home inspectors are not in their class.
- Employees
- Felons
- Parolees
Amendment IV
I submit the following for your consideration, dear Floridians…
What would you do if you were ASHI/FABI and wanted to push forth some very restrictive legislation…again…knowing that you would be inviting the successful interference of Florida’s largest home inspection association…to kill your efforts? Would you put forth a target for them to collectively attack, or…
Would you pretend to form a “coalition” and then concoct a totally obnoxious bill requiring people to forfeit their civil right to privacy in order to work…while your “former” lobbiest put together the restrictive measures that you really favor? That way, those rejecting your “coalition” bill would actually choose the more restrictive bill as an alternative?
Jerry Peck thinks you are foolish enough to fall for it.
The “coalition” is betting that they can divide their opposition. Are they right, or will Florida’s sensible inspectors band together to defeat both propositions?
Joe
Pee test will not float and in short we probably do not have to even fight it – whoever put that in needs a mental test. Beside it might put a lot of people out of work in a lot of professions if it ever became the rule of the day
What up sets me the most is my right to work without the government trying to “protect” the governed from me doing a good or bad job. The gov licenses everything under the sun now. Protection and quality can not be licensed.
Even licensed to carry does not say one can shoot and hit the side of a barn
As long as the bills are bad I think we should just keep our attack centered on those facts
Jim – yes the whole thing could have been planned but I do not believe that the people behind the “door” are that smart.
Remember that a lot of the ASHI $$ are from HI’s with less than 250 inspections. Why does that number keep coming up??
Now we need a good action plan at this time with time lines – areas of responsibilities etc
rlb
The real beauty of opposing licensing which everyone overlooks is; there is no need to agree. Those who are pro-licensing must make sure that everyone’s two-cents are included in, and in the end the bill is rendered an impassable POS.
On the other hand two people working on defeating the bill need not have anything in common; as a matter of fact they might be complete enemies with one another and still produce a similar synergistic effect of those who are held together by a close bond.
That is why on a spiritual level working to defeat legislation requires no mutual agreement or consensus, as a matter of fact NACHI & ASHI were perfect partners defeating last years bill with no agreement whatsoever. No one really cares why you want the bill defeated, only that you do, which is in perfect alignment with natural law and the physics of the universe. The fabric of the universe is chaos, the movement of all matter is from order to disorder and systems are constantly gaining in entropy. The understanding of these *spiritual laws *all work in perfect harmony with those of us who oppose the order of licensing legislation, and there is really nothing you can do to lessen its impact. Everyone is fully aware of how much energy is required to buck the trend of natural order, the minute everything is perfect it inexorably begins to come undone, those of us who oppose licensing use this principal and energy to our advantage.
In other words… rust never sleeps, and it is this natural propensity of things to progress from a state of order to disorder that provides the added energy to those of us who are working to undermine the contrived unnatural order of Florida home inspector licensing.
Joe
I don’t know what you are smoking but I want some.
Yes I agree that it is going to be easier to get all together to defeat poor regulation that it is to pass same.
I still stand by my thoughts that the gov can stay out of my shorts.
They know very little about our profession and then some “representative” of our industry is going to write a bill? Then a coalition is going to have us drug tested!
Yes – these bills need to go down and down hard
Lets hope that they don’t get change because right now they are a joke
I wonder where CMI Mike stands on these bills when it might cause some of his inspectors to be out of work
And Jay still has not gotten the names of the players posted yet
rlb