Originally Posted By: ajalowsky
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Today’s QOD:
Today’s QOD:
Originally Posted By: Aimee Jalowsky
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And the answer is…
Header Courses!
Originally Posted By: lgoodman
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I think the fact that it is made of bricks also identifies it as a masonry wall.
Originally Posted By: jwortham
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Not if it’s a brick veneer over plywood sheathing.
Originally Posted By: dvalley
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Leigh,
There's a major difference...
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Originally Posted By: lgoodman
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So if masons don’t install that veneer wall, who does?
Webster's New WorldDictionary, 2nd College Edition-"Masonry 1. the trade or art of a mason 2. something built by a mason or masons; brickwork or stonework.
Earlier today someone said"careful you may be taken literally". I want to be taken literally and in the exchange of information we should all strive to take each other literally unless directed " Now, don't take me literally".
Originally Posted By: dvalley
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Originally Posted By: jwortham
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Leigh,
Ok. We'll take you literally.
But if you report a home made with a brick veneer as a masonry home, you are doing your clients a disservice as well as being plain wrong.
Up to you though.
Originally Posted By: mlong
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Hey Dave V.,
I was just curious, the diagrams you posted that are showing the two types of masonry walls, where are you getting those?
By the way, I also like your web site!
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Originally Posted By: lgoodman
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Dave,
I agree that there is a difference in the way these walls are described in a report. Your posting will benefit those who may not know the difference.
Thank you for providing it.
I was trying to point out that the Question of the Day had two correct answers and "made of bricks" was as valid an answer as "has a header course"
One other point. A mason may build a header course into a veneer wall for aesthetic purposes and to make it look like historic homes in the neighborhood. A headercourse does not guarantee that the wall is not masonry/veneer.
Originally Posted By: dvalley
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Mark,
I utilize Carson & Dunlop Home Illustrations.
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Originally Posted By: jmurray
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| dvalley wrote: |
| Mark,
I utilize Carson & Dunlop Home Illustrations. |
Yep have the book but, CD is too pricey for me!
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Originally Posted By: bkelly2
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Leigh I am with you. If the wall is made with bricks it is a masonary wall. If has a veneer then it is not a wall made with bricks. Lots of slump block houses here, some sided some not. The window wells are deeper on a block house than a stick house.
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Originally Posted By: dvalley
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| If has a veneer then it is not a wall made with bricks. |
When we say brick veneer, we don't mean those little thin slices that you glue on your kitchen wall. We mean an honest to goodness brick. However, the wall is only one wythe thick. Behind the brick veneer is a wood frame wall which is actually holding up the house. The brick veneer is, in effect, siding!
A veneer brick wall is absolutely made with bricks. A veneer brick wall has one layer of bricks verses a solid brick wall having two or three layers deep. In its most common form, a solid masonry wall consists of an outer layer of brick and an inner layer of brick.
You have to understand the difference between brick veneer and solid masonry. The biggest difference is that with solid masonry, the brick is holding up the house. With brick veneer, the house is holding up the brick!
OK?
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Originally Posted By: tallen
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Good explanation David.
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Originally Posted By: bkelly2
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| Brian,
You said...
When we say brick veneer, we don't mean those little thin slices that you glue on your kitchen wall. We mean an honest to goodness brick. However, the wall is only one wythe thick. Behind the brick veneer is a wood frame wall which is actually holding up the house. The brick veneer is, in effect, siding! OK? |
Exactly the wood frame wall with brick veneer.
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Originally Posted By: mlong
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| Mark,
I utilize Carson & Dunlop Home Illustrations. |
Thanks Dave.
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