Home Inspector vs Licensed Electrical Contractor

Yes proctored tests means something.
I was certified on the very first day that Ohio began issuing these certs.

I have taken and passed all 4 of the required tests.

I am tested and trained on Ohio law and you are not. Something that you are NOT! Again, I hope no one takes your Ohio legal advice.

That is not a certification by a code council. Why did you try to foist an ICC class participation certificate on us as if it represented some kind of qualification? How pitiful.

This isn’t either Chuck.

It’s training by the State of Ohio on the new RCO that became effective 1 July 2019.

Try again! LOL

Yes. We know you participated in the meeting too. We’ve demonstrated the fallacy of your premise repeatedly here, yet you demonstrate a remarkable inability to learn from it.

Where’s the certificate for practicing law and advising the public with your legal opinions that you represent as fact? Are you an attorney, a legislator or a regulator of home inspectors? If you can’t answer yes to this, you’re unqualified to tell home inspectors what they can and cannot do under Ohio Law.

We have repeatedly debunked your claims based on the faulty premise that you can substitute whatever definition you choose for the definition included in the actual law. You confuse the term “code” with “code compliance” and the state of Ohio regulatory agency has rendered an opinion which directly contradicts you’re contorted claims.

You’re incompetent at legal interpretation and seem to have extremely limited ability to objectively comprehend what you read or learn from the errors that have been repeatedly demonstrated to you…

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I list NO opinion just facts. My authority to talk about and interpret and act as a third party inspector for the State of Ohio and to advice private party’s the NEC comes from RC 3783. My authority to speak about my profession as a Licensed Home Inspector comes from the US Constitution and RC 4764.

You have no credentials from the State of Ohio but you still try to discredit those who do!

You need to come in from that Texas heat.

Please note that the State of Ohio SAYS that I am competent. Since 2002

I will have been certified 17 years to the day that Ohio requires individuals to be licensed to perform home inspections. Kinda ironic!

ESI

Guys, I have this. Does it count toward any qualification?DSC03807

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You have presented absolutely nothing that demonstrates that you are competent or qualified to interpret law or certified to provide legal advice to the public in Ohio. You need to show us your Ohio Bar Association membership for that. You have demonstrated yourself to be grossly incompetent at interpreting law and basic reading comprehension.

Your ESI cert makes you neither a competent home inspector or attorney.

You have a monetary interest in convincing Home Inspectors and the public that home inspector are not competent and may not legally perform an essential component of the home inspection process within the state of Ohio. To that end you have put forth grossly contorted interpretations of Ohio law and directly contradicted guidance provided by the Ohio Board of Building Standards.

Again: You are neither qualified nor competent to make these claims.

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I can’t believe this has gone on as long as it has without a definitive answer.
What someone needs to do is contact the NACHI attorney before some Ohio members get into trouble.
I’m sure if Cohen was still around this would have already be resolved.
I don’t know who the NACHI attorney is now.

Says who? A Texas home inspector? LOL

Nothing in RC 4764 gives anyone the right to inspect the inside of an electrical panel. Nothing in RC 4764 gives the OHIB the authority to give permission to home inspectors to violate RC 3783.

I have shown you where I am not only qualified to interpret but allowed to comment.

So anyone with more knowledge than you, you attempt to smear their credibility. All hail Chuck from Texas the nation’s legal authority on home inspection law. Maybe you could franchise!

I agree Roy. Someone needs to explain to Ohio home inspectors “(B)The “practice of electrical inspection” includes any ascertainment of compliance with the Ohio building code, or the electrical code of a political subdivision of this state by a person, who, for compensation, inspects the construction and installation of electrical conductors, fittings, devices, and fixtures for light, heat or power services equipment, or the installation, alteration, replacement, maintenance, or repair of any electrical wiring and equipment that is subject to any of the aforementioned codes.”

I know what it means and I have tried to share that here.

It will take a homeowner suing a home inspector before this will be decided. That’s sad.

Do they still pick on people from Parma? Ex-Solon resident.

Not like they did years ago!

Haven’t seen anything like this here in years. :nauseated_face:

BIG TIME WAFI !!
All who agree with the WAFI PLEASE state so… … … …

As we discussed the other day Marc.
NACHI Council needs to get involved with this one to protect the Ohio inspector

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Or do we not have legal counsel anymore?

Since I perform electrical inspections for the State of Ohio and the fact that I make legal interpretations of the NEC for enforcement purposes, I would say that I am more than qualified. I think Competent is a better word!

You have the Jesus Christ syndrome down pat Yankee boy.
If Mark Cohen was here this would have already been resolved.
In addition, Yankee boy
What keeps you with all your self-proclaimed intelligence from becoming a paid member for this organization?
Don’t sidestep the question .
Why with all of your money why haven’t you became a full member? Please notice the? Since you’re such an observable electrician.
I’ll always look down on non-members that Hawk their Wares.
We’ve had many snake oil Peddlers here. And are no longer here now.

Mr. Parks
I’m not quite getting you very well
Do you have a service that you’re trying to provide for the Ohio home inspector?
Please answer the question with a yes or no. Okay?

Crickets…

I’ve been saying this since 2006 and Mark Roe didn’t believe me so he got the board’s opinion and that opinion has been shared here by me and others.

Calling me names doesn’t change the facts. As I said - this will need to be tested in court and some poor home inspector will be the sacrificial lamb before Ohio home inspectors stop violating Ohio law.

I don’t care if you inspect the inside or not. No skin off of my nose. I just deal with facts.

I am not a member for the same reason that I am not an ASHI member. Home inspections are a small part of my business. I mostly consult on the code. Example: I get called on a real estate deal when the electrician says the home inspector is an idiot and doesn’t know the code.

More often than not it is the electrician, that works for the license holder, that is wrong not the home inspector. Why? Because the smart home inspectors use their experience to explain why a panel needs to be replaced or outdated rather than citing code. It is the electrician who usually cites the code and it is then that I remind them that they are not allowed to give a legal opinion on the panels condition.

Ohio’s law on electrical inspections is different than most states. Inspector beware. .

As I have said the home inspector holds a bigger club than the electrician does (Nov. 1st) in Ohio.

I can. But most home inspectors will not need me if they heed what I am saying.

One possibility could be if the homeowner wants to sue the home inspector because the electrician says that the whole electrical system is ‘f’ and wants it replaced. I could explain that the HI was correct in his visual inspection of the electrical system and also that the electrician is not only not licensed as a home inspector he is not certified to give an opinion on the electrical systems defects or lack of defects.

Starting Nov. 1st a home inspectors opinion carries a lot more weight than it once did. I am trying to say be careful if you cross the line and start citing code.