How should I word this?

This gas line, which is routed between the pillar and girder, is protected from crush by a few small strips of wood shims. This house was built in 1890 and movement is a concern. Does anyone have narrative suggestions? Thank you for your time.

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Does it come out the other side? Gotta wonder why they ran it through there in the first place.

Yes, it goes the same place as the one next to it.

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I think I would write it up as a “non-standard” or “poor workmanship” type of comment.
As it is, it is not leaking (I assume) and is not damaged (I assume), but the potential is there.

My narrative for this type of situation is below. It would be accompanied by a picture with a picture caption that describes the issue..

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It will still be there in 2090.

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Very likely. It was completely redone with coordination from a SE. MOST of the work was great. Some of it was passable.

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Girder and joists look to be hard wood.

I remodeled a house that has hardwood framing..tough stuff.

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So, in the event of catastrophic failure we are concerned with this gas line? If so, that is your narrative :wink:

Why are they running gas lines parallel to one another? Are you sure they are both active?

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I like the term catastrophic failure.
Yes, both were active.

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It seems like a seismic event or something similar could pose a real hazard. The 1890’s framing was only partially reinforced. It was old, hard wood, but had suffered from decay in numerous places. Structural repairs were a couple or a few years old. The future of that girder is uncertain. I’m looking for language to address it.

I still just can’t get over why they decided to run the one in a much more difficult way. Were they that short on pipe that day?

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I am sorry, Andy, but you need to qualify your concerns and list them.

For example, the framing is old, and there is visible wood deterioration in numerous areas. Therefore, I have concerns that the structure is not stable. The gas line may be subject to damage in the event of movement or settlement.

But now you have stated the structure has issues, be sure to list them as well.

Repairs are a good thing.

No need to be sorry as we are not in conflict. Thank you for your perspective. I appreciate your time and engagement.

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Evening, Andy.
What type of piping is it?

Just my 2 cents and from memory, Natural Gas pipework passing through walls, floors and structures, I take the column to be a structure, must be sleeved.
As well, there is no orange safety identifications labels on the piping every 5" or 6" feet.

Looking forward to your reply.

That piping was Counterstrike CSST. The way it was squeezed in there, there wasn’t room for anything else, or any tolerance either.
I must say, I have never seen orange safety ID on a gas line in a residence. This was propane, not that it matters.

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The tubing routed through the column is suspect. 1/2" of free space is required.
Recommend further evaluation by a licensed appliance propane technician. Act upon any recommendations therein.
Just my 2 cents.

TracPipe®CounterStrike® Flexible Gas Piping Manual
Page 32. Section #4. Clearance holes for routing the piping through studs, joists, plates etc. shall have a diameter at least 1/2 inch larger than the outside diameter of the piping. When a structural member must be drilled, conformance to building codes must be followed.
No structural member shall be seriously weakened or impaired by cutting, notching or otherwise altering the member. Minimum drill hole sizes are listed in Table: 4-6. TracPipe® CounterStrike® shall not pass through a bored hole through which any metallic pipe, metallic tube, electrical conductor, electrical or electronic cable or electrical metallic raceway also passes.

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In the US, natural gas pipes are typically marked with yellow color-coded tape and markers. The color code is a universal standard recognized across the country, particularly by underground utility locating companies. The yellow color indicates flammable or oxidizing fluids and gases, including natural gas.

Thank you for pointing out the very obvious path. The solution lies in the wording of the manufacturers instructions and I should have already consulted them.

My pleasure, Andy. When our head is full of thought, the obvious path is at times overlooked. That is what the message board is for.
Keep well.
Robert

PS: I feel you can weed out other propane installation deficiencies. Seeing there are 2 lines, 1: bonding should be looked at. 2: Yellow identification indication markers. 3: Vertical hangers every so many feet. Just a gut feeling.