Galvanized gas line through wall

Originally Posted By: Kris Beck
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I am an amature running 14" of galvanized 1" from outside of the house through the cinder block wall and then connecting to 3/4" black iron on the inside, and then going to the heater. Is this OK? The guy at Home Depot kind of questioned it today. That is what I was told to do by my uncle who works for a commercial duct company in Jersey. I live in Jersey. It is to prevent being weathered. What do you all think? Thanks


Originally Posted By: gbeaumont
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Kris,


you're not going to like this but, an unlicensed amature should not be attempting to install or modify gas lines PERIOD.

Gerry


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Originally Posted By: Kris Beck
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The way I heard it was! I can do all the work myself and will pressure test it to make sure I am tight, but will then have it inspected by a pro.


Originally Posted By: gbeaumont
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Kris,


I am not aware of any State or AHJ that allows a homeowner to perform gas fitting, I sugest that you talk to your City permitting dept, it goes without saying that poorly executed gas installations are often accompanied by loud bangs and visits from the fire dept.

I do not believe that you (as an unlicensed homeowner) can pull a permit to do this work.

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Gerry


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Originally Posted By: aatkinson
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Kris Beck wrote:
I am an amature running 14" of galvanized 1" from outside of the house through the cinder block wall and then connecting to 3/4" black iron on the inside, and then going to the heater. Is this OK? The guy at Home Depot kind of questioned it today. That is what I was told to do by my uncle who works for a commercial duct company in Jersey. I live in Jersey. It is to prevent being weathered. What do you all think? Thanks



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Originally Posted By: Kris Beck
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Is the inspection guy going to need to see a permit in order to test the line?


Originally Posted By: James D Mosier
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gbeaumont wrote:
Kris,

you're not going to like this but, an unlicensed amature should not be attempting to install or modify gas lines PERIOD.

Gerry


Gerry,

Does this mean that I should have called a plumber to move my gas water heater about two feet over during replacement? What if I didn't move it, just replaced it?

Kris,

Around here the permit gets signed by the inspector. The price of the permit pays the inspection dept. Unfortunatly the signature doesn't guarantee that the inspection actually occurred.


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Originally Posted By: bkelly2
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Kris Beck wrote:
I am an amature running 14" of galvanized 1" from outside of the house through the cinder block wall and then connecting to 3/4" black iron on the inside, and then going to the heater. Is this OK? The guy at Home Depot kind of questioned it today. That is what I was told to do by my uncle who works for a commercial duct company in Jersey. I live in Jersey. It is to prevent being weathered. What do you all think? Thanks


Kris, how did size the gas line?
If I was moving a gas line when I pressure tested the line I would snoop (spray with soapy water) all af the mechanical connections to check for leaks. I probably would not use galvanized either, I would get heavy wall carbon steel (black iron) pipe and paint it. But then again I am not going to do a job like that. Is your carbon monoxide detector in good working order? ![icon_wink.gif](upload://ssT9V5t45yjlgXqiFRXL04eXtqw.gif)


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Originally Posted By: Kris Beck
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I think that Gerry is trying to secure the job for a plummer. Thanks for your input though. I know a lot of people that were unlicenced and built there houses from the ground up, and many others that just recently installed there own heating units with gas. I went to home depot yesterday and got all of the piped cut that I needed unfortunetly I did not allow enough for the 90’s. I thought that I had according to a do it your self book I have. Anyway I have to go back today and have a couple inches cut off. Once all hooked up I will put a pressure guage on it and put about 50 PSI into the line and see if it holds for a few days. Once that is OK. I can then get the inspector out to check it and then get the tank installed. Vent pipe is going in tonight, and then electrical. Got a “licenced” guy coming to hookup the AC unit and run the lines. Ain’t messing with any of that. Let me know if there is somthing that I am missing here. Thanks


Originally Posted By: Monte Lunde
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Kris


The owner can pull a permit, the owner is acting as the contractor. The AHJ is going to inspect your project a little different (harder) because you are acting as the contractor.

If you are having the gas company inspect your work, they will test it also before turning on your gas.

It does not hurt that you test the gas line prior to having it inspected, by using bkelly2 method..

I do not understand why you did not sleeve the gas line in the block wall.

The galvanized pipe should be paint black or sleeve the wall and get a piece of black pipe instead for the AHJ might fail you because of the galvanized pipe. AHJ have funny ideas sometimes when inspecting a home owner that pulled the permit.

It sounds like you moving a existing gas line to a new location, if so than you do not need a permit but get it tested by the gas company..


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Originally Posted By: Kris Beck
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What is the AHJ?


The gas company won’t even hook up until they have the cert. saying it was inspected.


What is the bkelly method? My uncle is bringing be a guage and I will hook it up to the pipe and fill with air. Is that what that is?


I have not put the Galv. pipe through the wall yet. Should I add a sleeve and why? Maybe good if there were to be friction. There shouldn’t be though. Paint the galv. black? Why? The Galv. is only for the sole purpose of being outside. I am sure that I could have used black and painted it. Using galv. is what I was told to do. I don’t know of any chemical imbalance from hooking galv. up to black. Why would it (maybe be failed) because of this?


I didn’t move a gas line per say. I am replacing the existing oil line with a gas line.


Originally Posted By: jkormos
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make sure your home owners insurance is paid up icon_eek.gif


Originally Posted By: bkelly2
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Kris, I just suggested to snoop all of the mechanical fittings to check for leaks while performing the pressure hold test.



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Originally Posted By: Kris Beck
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Snoop is the water and soap combo spray? If so, I was planning on doing that as well. What was the AHJ?


Originally Posted By: dedwards
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Originally Posted By: rwashington
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Originally Posted By: jpope
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Kris Beck wrote:
I didn't move a gas line per say. I am replacing the existing oil line with a gas line.


I hope you're replacing the entire line. Oil will combust under pressure.

Pipes for gas lines must be new or previously used as gas lines. Your jurisdiction may require drip legs as well.

The combination of black and galvanized is not a problem that I am aware of.

Also, your pressure test must be air or nitrogen - not oxygen.

There are many requirements for gas line installations that must be met in order to obtain approval from the AHJ.


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Originally Posted By: Jay Moge
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i think i might take out an insurance policy on this guy.


plain and simple....if you have to ask, you probably shouldn't try it, in this case anyway. ![icon_cool.gif](upload://oPnLkqdJc33Dyf2uA3TQwRkfhwd.gif)


Originally Posted By: Kris Beck
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Jay Moge wrote:
i think i might take out an insurance policy on this guy.

plain and simple....if you have to ask, you probably shouldn't try it, in this case anyway. ![icon_cool.gif](upload://oPnLkqdJc33Dyf2uA3TQwRkfhwd.gif)


Only covering my ground jack a$%. I am sure that there were things in life that you have done and have turned out fine, because you did some homework. It is better than paying an over priced plumber to do a simple installation.


Originally Posted By: rcooke
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Amateurs teach AMATEURS to be Amateurs .


Please listen to Gerry. GET A PRO!!! .


You Notice most home inspectors advise you to not do it .


There is a lot more then just getting some pipe.



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